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Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:20 am to SlowFlowPro
We also ran a more diverse offense in 2007 compared to 2009. I think this is because Flynn was a smarter QB which allowed Crowton to call a lot more different plays.
We have what 12 different plays now and JJ still looks confused
Not really. This is JJ's second year in Crowton's offense. 2007 was Flynn's first year in Crowton's offense.
We have what 12 different plays now and JJ still looks confused
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The real question here should be do you take 2005 Flynn or 2009 JJ, give me JJ.
Not really. This is JJ's second year in Crowton's offense. 2007 was Flynn's first year in Crowton's offense.
This post was edited on 11/24/09 at 9:22 am
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:22 am to josh336
I would still take Flynn..at least we would have a quicker throwing offense...
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:22 am to rbdallas
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once again...that's called POTENTIAL.
Why are you beating your head? So what if it's called potential.
I honestly feel that if you threw MF into the current castrophe that is our offense, he would not perform as well as JJ has. Conversely, I think if JJ was our QB in 2007, we possibly go undefeated.
I happen to agree with SFP...MF was very hot/cold.
The whole situation is hypothetical anyway. Who gives a shite? I like watching JJ play better than MF. It's the Meerkat and shitty play calling and shitty O-line that have me frustrated.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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there is a big difference in 1/2 (from the SEC) and a bunch of teams in the 10-30 range (esp with 2 of these teams coming from the Big10 and ACC, which are horrible)
We will have only played three ranked teams this year (not counting the bowl game because at this point, we have no idea for sure). I don't see how that is more difficult than eight ranked teams in 2007, along with defeating the reigning national champs (who went on to win it again the next year).
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:23 am to zack7552
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I think if JJ was our QB in 2007, we possibly go undefeated.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:23 am to dogman67
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Flynn didn't lose those games
flynn's play against Arky and UK directly led to our losses. it wasn't the only variable, obviously, but solid QB play (not great, just solid) during the entire game of both games = LSU wins
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:24 am to Jason9782003
Like a "deer in the headlights"...We are lucky he has been as good as he has, because by looking into his eys, I would hesitate putting him on the field if I were he coach. I guess it makes it easier when you don't have any better options..
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:24 am to dogman67
Yea I doubt JJ will ever get drafted, he might and MF will be in the NFL for a few years. Oh yea probably alot longer than the great JM. SFP what good team has JJ beat? He beat a very avg. team or two but to act like he has played better teams than MF get real.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:24 am to theunknownknight
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We will have only played three ranked teams this year (not counting the bowl game because at this point, we have no idea for sure). I don't see how that is more difficult than eight ranked teams in 2007
CFB is a tiered system with huge gaps between each tear
the top few teams are a lot better than the next 5 or so, who are a lot better than the next 10, etc
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along with defeating the reigning national champs
who had a ton of true freshman and sophomores on D
UF had a weak D in 2007
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:25 am to DONHOGG
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Oh yea probably alot longer than the great JM.
who?
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:25 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:the same could be said for our three losses this year
but solid QB play (not great, just solid) during the entire game of both games = LSU wins
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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It remains to be seen if he can develop what it takes to be a champion
so 1 more loss (while playing harder teams) is the difference?
why do people forget flynn lost TWO games in 2007? where were the intangibles?
The offense under Flynn scored way more than enough to win. Pelini's defense allowed over 30 pts. Remember,ya'll wanted Pelini gone. He was too busy thinking out Nebraska job. Remember that SFP?
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:26 am to DONHOGG
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SFP what good team has JJ beat?
what elite teams did flynn beat?
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but to act like he has played better teams than MF get real.
it's a legit debate
people forget how bad flynn was when he was cold. he was a hot/cold QB who was pretty good when hot, but horrible when cold
JJ is a more consistent QB who gets the balls to his WRs more often, for higher yards, and who turns the ball over less
JJ is a game manager
Flynn was a gunslinger
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:26 am to SlowFlowPro
2009- LSU played 3 ranked teams
2007- LSU played 6 ranked teams, 7 if you count the SECCG.
Va. Tech was no slouch and finished the yr. ranked 9th.
Your whole argument is based on individual stats and "elite" teams alone.
You want to criticize Flynn on 3 games, but in those games he led his teams to plenty of points to win. Kenty was in the bag had one TE caught the ball. He was open, it was the right throw, but Flynn can't help it if he had stone hands.
Silly thread really.
2007- LSU played 6 ranked teams, 7 if you count the SECCG.
Va. Tech was no slouch and finished the yr. ranked 9th.
Your whole argument is based on individual stats and "elite" teams alone.
You want to criticize Flynn on 3 games, but in those games he led his teams to plenty of points to win. Kenty was in the bag had one TE caught the ball. He was open, it was the right throw, but Flynn can't help it if he had stone hands.
Silly thread really.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:26 am to SlowFlowPro
I'll take the white guy, always the white guy
signed,
The Rant
signed,
The Rant
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:27 am to Bert Lyons 716
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Pelini's defense allowed over 30 pts.
kinda like our D this year giving up a ton of yards go UW, or giving up final drives to UGA, Ole Miss, Bama, etc?
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:27 am to Bert Lyons 716
flynn should've start over russell the year before
This post was edited on 11/24/09 at 9:28 am
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:28 am to DP40
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You want to criticize Flynn on 3 games, but in those games he led his teams to plenty of points to win. Kenty was in the bag had one TE caught the ball. He was open, it was the right throw, but Flynn can't help it if he had stone hands.
flynn was 17/35 for 130 yards that game, with 1 TD and 1 INT
are you really going to argue for flynn in the UK game?
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:28 am to TulaneTigerFan
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I'll take the white guy, always the white guy signed, The Rant
Sadly, even though they won't admit it, it comes down to this alot for them
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