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re: JJ 2009 vs Flynn 2007 - who do you pick?
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:29 am to theunknownknight
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:29 am to theunknownknight
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theunknownknight
what is so funny? Did MF play every down as QB? Did RP not contribute and make plays at key times?
People have selective memory about MF. He was good...not great. Don't laugh because I think that JJ would have flourished more in that environment than the current environment.
Again...try to imagine MF playing behind our O-line, no RP to back him up, Meerkat style getting off half the plays he did in 2007. How would his numbers look then?
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:29 am to TulaneTigerFan
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I'll take the white guy, always the white guy
signed,
The Rant
I knew some fig would come up with that stroke of brilliance. Leave it to a Tulane fan.
Yea, JJ > Hodson and Bert Jones.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:30 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:theyre running the offenses crowton allows them to run.
JJ is a game manager
Flynn was a gunslinger
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:30 am to josh336
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I'll take the white guy, always the white guy signed, The Rant
Sadly, even though they won't admit it, it comes down to this alot for them
Okay,so saying Matt Flynn in 2007 was a better QB than Jefferson in 2009 makes you a racist ?
Some of you really are retarded.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:30 am to I-59 Tiger
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I knew some fig would come up with that stroke of brilliance. Leave it to a Tulane fan.
My IQ is significantly higher than yours old man. Back to the SEC board where gumps will worship you for your senility
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:31 am to DONHOGG
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JJ 2009 vs Flynn 2007 - who do you pick?
Yea I doubt JJ will ever get drafted, he might and MF will be in the NFL for a few years. Oh yea probably alot longer than the great JM. SFP what good team has JJ beat? He beat a very avg. team or two but to act like he has played better teams than MF get real.
Danielson made that point during the game.He mention that JJ had not stepped up in big games and needed to today. At one point in the game,GD mentioned that everyone in the stadium except Jefferson knew the blitz was coming. He also said Nix feared trying to defend Tiger option as option negates pass rush.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:31 am to jjbodean1970
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theyre running the offenses crowton allows them to run.
well the stats back these claims up also
and people are forgetting the impact of the lack of a running game on our offense
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:31 am to SlowFlowPro
Flynn wasnt a great QB but he was much better at avoiding sacks and also a hell of a better game manager. Not to mention the games we lost with Flynn were all OT losses. We also didnt struggle so bad with the so called "cupcake teams."
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:31 am to I-59 Tiger
I didn't say that, I've already said I'd take 2007 Flynn over 2009 JJ, but come on, there is plenty of evidence to what that poster was saying.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:31 am to TulaneTigerFan
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My IQ is significantly higher than yours old man
May be,but I doubt it. But you are a real dumbarse for saying those who pick Flynn over Jefferson are racists.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:32 am to Bert Lyons 716
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Danielson made that point during the game.He mention that JJ had not stepped up in big games and needed to today. At one point in the game,GD mentioned that everyone in the stadium except Jefferson knew the blitz was coming. He also said Nix feared trying to defend Tiger option as option negates pass rush.
well yeah Flynn had a really good QB coach for 4 years and JJ has had no QB coaching really while at LSU
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:32 am to TulaneTigerFan
When yoou choose a white guy you are a racist! Hell you didn't know that?
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:32 am to Jason9782003
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We have what 12 different plays now and JJ still looks confused
if Crowton ran 12 plays we'd probably be undefeated or have 1 loss right now. then again, 5 of those plays would be a short side option out of various looks.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:32 am to SlowFlowPro
I like JJ and think he'll continue to improve, but Flynn in a heartbeat.
Despite Flynn's occasional bad series (especially after the injury), he just had much better pocket awareness. Something you'd expect from a 5th year senior. He also threw a better deep ball.
JJ may get to that level by the time he's done, but he's not there yet IMO.
Despite Flynn's occasional bad series (especially after the injury), he just had much better pocket awareness. Something you'd expect from a 5th year senior. He also threw a better deep ball.
JJ may get to that level by the time he's done, but he's not there yet IMO.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:32 am to SlowFlowPro
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CFB is a tiered system with huge gaps between each tear
the top few teams are a lot better than the next 5 or so, who are a lot better than the next 10, etc
Against what elite team did JJ light it up this year for you to reach the conclusion that he "played" against elite team?
If I recall, MF had 4 TDs in the NC game. If that's not elite, I don't know what is.
As far as Florida goes, a team is not going to have that big of a drop off if they win the NC, then do it again a year later.
Florida was the real deal. The problem was their team didn't play as hard after that their loss to us in 2007. Much like we did after losing to them last year (except far worse
). This post was edited on 11/24/09 at 9:33 am
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:32 am to SlowFlowPro
Flynn couldn't have beat Ark in 2007 unless he could play on the D line...They had over 500 yards on us with 385 on the ground with two great backs that will have great NFL careers. No way Flynn lost that game, we were hurt in the D Line (banged up) and we were not ready for that kind of rushing offense...
Slow - I agree with your handle, you are a little slow, especially everytime I am on this board you are in disagreement with the majority. You would have to be slow not to realize that..
Slow - I agree with your handle, you are a little slow, especially everytime I am on this board you are in disagreement with the majority. You would have to be slow not to realize that..
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:33 am to Titan
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but he was much better at avoiding sacks
and he threw more picks
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Not to mention the games we lost with Flynn were all OT losses.
flynn vs UK
17/35 for 130 yards that game, with 1 TD and 1 INT
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:34 am to SlowFlowPro
130 passing yards in a triple OT game.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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and he threw more picks
again, not saying he was a great QB. Definitely cannot minimize his game controlling abilities. But LSU's overall stats were way better.
This post was edited on 11/24/09 at 9:37 am
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:35 am to theunknownknight
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Against what elite team did JJ light it up this year for you to reach the conclusion that he "played" against elite team?
he played against the 2 best teams in the country, who are noticeably better than everyone else except maybe Texas
nobody is claiming JJ lit it up, but Flynn didn't have to face a D like either of those Ds
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If I recall, MF had 4 TDs in the NC game. If that's not elite, I don't know what is.
we're talking about elite teams, not elite performances. and that was against OSU...1 of those TDs was running up the score also
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As far as Florida goes, a team is not going to have that big of a drop off if they win the NC, then do it again a year later.
when you lose your entire D and play a bunch of 1st and 2nd year players, you will
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Florida was the real deal.
on offense. their D was mediocre
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The problem was their team didn't play as hard after that their loss to us in 2007.
rant mythos
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