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re: JJ 2009 vs Flynn 2007 - who do you pick?

Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:03 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:03 am to
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Smart and able to get the ball to the playmakers.

he had a 2:1 TD:INT and about a 56% completion rate, with lower ypa
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22755 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:04 am to
If anyone doesn't like the way Jordan Jefferson has improved his game down the stretch they are crazy.......

Seems to me that if they would give JJ more free reign in the offense bigger plays would have come a long time ago.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:04 am to
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JJ his Sr year will make Flynns 07 numbers look pedestrian.


that's called an opinion on "POTENTIAL"...
not true until such time as it actually happens.

he may / he may not
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
11383 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:04 am to
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JJ 2009 vs Flynn 2007 - who do you pick?


Flynn, because his pocket presence is vastly superior. Then again, it's kind of an unfair comparison because JJ is a true sophomore, and Flynn had more time to transition into the role. You would pick JJ?
Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:05 am to
think Flynn has far better pocket awareness and wouldnt take half the sacks JJ does...which is huge...knowing when to rollout, when to run, when to step up in the pocket...etc


but i think even you know that flynn is one of the more underrated LSU qbs

i also think JJ is much better than most give him credit for, but his pocket awareness is something that can put him over the top if and when it comes around
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:05 am to
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but there are things called "intangibles" you need to account for as well.

like shitting the bed against UK, Bama, and Arky?

flynn also did not face a team o the level of UF or Bama 09
Posted by dogman67
Buna, Texas
Member since Jun 2009
102 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:07 am to
You have lost your mind...Quit looking at the skewed stats...Flyn did have bad games but still managed to pass for 3 touchdowns in each of those games and ended up with 353 yards passing against bama...Hell JJ couldn't dream of throwing for that many yards at this point.. A Flynn led team never scored less than 28 points, and 10 out of 12 of those games we scored 30 or more....To even compare him against JJ at this point in his career is just stupid...
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
11383 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:08 am to
Slow, if you're going to raise the question, you should at least make a pick.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:08 am to
Slow,if you are itching to pump your post count,find a better topice. We all know you hate the fact that white players like Flynn and Hester were so popular on the 2007 team and how Russell was a million times better than Flynn and "KW" is better than Hester,blah,blah.

But this is lame. Jefferson may turn into a Heisman winner,but you know good and well Flynn in 2007 was much,much better than JJ.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:09 am to
Flynn had better poise, motor, and want to achieve victory.
Posted by ITtigah
Right around the corner
Member since Nov 2007
1081 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:09 am to
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flynn = 2 loss season without playing an elite team


This is true, but it could be argued that both losses were in 3 OT, and that the defense cost us the Arky game. Flynn did put up 48 points.
Posted by zack7552
Lawton, OK
Member since Jul 2008
3823 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:10 am to
I disagree with most.

I would rather have JJ. I think he has more upside. Flynn did well...but I was constantly getting frustrated with him during the season. I felt that Flynn would have done much worse without Perrilloux as a relief. Plus, the games Perrilloux didn't play...I felt the team struggled more. I wanted RP to start. He was/is a better QB.

Plus, Flynn's numbers would be lower than JJ's if he was playing in this same, Meerkat, 50 plays per game offense...with the coaches pounding it into your head to not throw a pick and check with us every sec and perform plays that you know will not work. JJ has done well considering.
Posted by faxis
La.
Member since Oct 2007
7773 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:10 am to
Flynn wasn't 19 years old.
Posted by dogman67
Buna, Texas
Member since Jun 2009
102 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:10 am to
Bull shite, bama and florida are very beatable tyhis year...Hell, if we had a offense that could compete we could beat them. Say what you want about Flynn, but he competed and won games and even when he didn't we at least moved the football. You can't even call what we have now an offense...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:10 am to
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think Flynn has far better pocket awareness and wouldnt take half the sacks JJ does.

but he throws more picks than JJ does and wasn't as accurate, leading to black holes in our offense
Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:11 am to
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I think he has more upside
totally irrelevant
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:11 am to
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bama and florida are very beatable tyhis year.

and bama and UF were much easier opponenets in 2007
Posted by dogman67
Buna, Texas
Member since Jun 2009
102 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:12 am to
So I guess you think that Brett Farve sucks, because he throws picks? Bottom line is you have to take a chance every now and then and if you don't you get sacked..If he wasn't so slow in getting to his 7 yard drop, maybe he could find someone open..
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
15544 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:12 am to
flynn stats are also slightly inflated from playing in 6 OT's.

Flynn struggled plenty during the regular season, much more than many here tend to remember.

MF best game was his last game, so everyone will remember that.

Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:12 am to
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and bama and UF were much easier opponenets in 2007


So I guess Ole Miss was better than 2007 VPI ?
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