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re: Jake Fraley to Wear Number 8
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:24 am to lsufball19
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:24 am to lsufball19
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I don't dispute that, but if you want to add context you also need to add context of the fact the bats were juiced as hell when Larson played, and...steroids....cough cough.
And Larson didn't even lead the nation in home runs.
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:27 am to therick711
I didn't say in terms of single year production. I didn't say anything actually. He wins in consistency and clutchness and awards though.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:28 am to therick711
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You did say in terms of production, though. Larson's '97 production is unrivaled. More hits than Walker ever had in a season, more hrs, more RBI, higher ops, 3 less games. Just saying.
I know what I said. I'm going to base production based on the era in which they played. Walker played on a team that had several future major leaguers on it. Oddly enough, not a single player from the 97 team made it to the majors outside spot appearances by Larson. Yet, for whatever reason (bats and the juice), that entire 97 made the 93 team look like amateurs if you just compare their stats in a vacuum.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:33 am to RummelTiger
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Well, you don't need to understand it, as it doesn't involve you.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:39 am to therick711
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Alex Bergman-led LSU Tigers
MOTHERfrick!!!!!' This shite drives me crazy!
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:40 am to lsufball19
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Oddly enough, not a single player from the 97 team made it to the majors outside spot appearances by Larson.
True, but I'm not sure that mlb success has any relevance. For instance, Brett Laxton struck out 16 batters to clinch a CWS, and he was a dominant pitcher at LSU. The fact that he only played in 9 major league game is irrelevant to me. His CWS performance is still the most productive in LSU history despite his MLB career.
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 11:43 am
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:44 am to ell_13
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I didn't say in terms of single year production. I didn't say anything actually. He wins in consistency and clutchness and awards though.
Either way, .395, 22 HR, 102 RBI in 1993 is more impressive than .381, 40 HR, 118 RBI in 1997 IMHO.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:45 am to lsu2006
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And Larson didn't even lead the nation in home runs.
He actually lost to a guy that wasn't on steroids, or if he was on them, was very bad at using them.
I always wanted someone to publicly accuse Berkman of using roids so his rebuttal would just be him taking off his shirt and saying "REALLY!?!"
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:46 am to therick711
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True, but I'm not sure that mlb success has any relevance
it kind of does, though. it shows, at least in some part, the inflated numbers of that team relative to the era in which they played. that's why you can't just say "well Larson had better power numbers." Walker put up elite numbers compared to his peers for 3 straight years. Larson did it for one, and while the homerun record and rbi record he set likely will never be broken by an LSU player, he didn't even lead the NCAA in that stat. it was just a completely different era. I'm not trying to say Larson's 1997 wasn't one of the best in LSU history, but what Walker did in his 3 years has never and may never be matched.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:47 am to lsu2006
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Either way, .395, 22 HR, 102 RBI in 1993 is more impressive than .381, 40 HR, 118 RBI in 1997 IMHO.
That .865 slug, tho.
As good as Walker's line was, he slugged almost 100 points lower than Larson did in 97.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:49 am to therick711
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That .865 slug, tho. As good as Walker's line was, he slugged almost 100 points lower than Larson did in 97.
Interestingly enough, both were good for 9th in the nation in their respective years.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:50 am to lsufball19
The fact that he had the misfortune to play at the same time as Lance F'n Berkman is irrelevant. Walker would not have held up to Berkman's season either. Also, Larson might have hit 55 home runs in the Western Athletic Conference (the SEC had 4[!] teams in Omaha that year).
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:40 pm to therick711
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The fact that he had the misfortune to play at the same time as Lance F'n Berkman is irrelevant. Walker would not have held up to Berkman's season either. Also, Larson might have hit 55 home runs in the Western Athletic Conference (the SEC had 4[!] teams in Omaha that year).
you're still missing the point. you compare walker's season to larson's in a vacuum, not weighing their seasons on how they compared relative to their peers. and walker did it for THREE years. no one is saying larson didn't have an incredible 97 season, but the fact will always remain he played just 1 season of division 1 baseball.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:57 pm to lsufball19
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walker did it for THREE years.
I will never forget watching him as a freshmen in the Winn Dixie showdown...I thought who in the hell is this freshmen...and he only got better
Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:30 pm to lsufball19
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you're still missing the point. you compare walker's season to larson's in a vacuum, not weighing their seasons on how they compared relative to their peers. and walker did it for THREE years. no one is saying larson didn't have an incredible 97 season, but the fact will always remain he played just 1 season of division 1 baseball.
Actually, you are confusing not agreeing with your points with missing the point. I still think Larson's 97 was the most productive offensive season in school history. It is unquestioned that Walker had 3 magnificent seasons. The fact remains that he never had one as good as Larson's 97 season.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:49 pm to LSUGrad9295
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I think the K-Lady bought it. It probably is hanging from the wall in her bedroom and she looks at it every time she and her husband have relations.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:57 pm to therick711
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Actually, you are confusing not agreeing with your points with missing the point. I still think Larson's 97 was the most productive offensive season in school history. It is unquestioned that Walker had 3 magnificent seasons. The fact remains that he never had one as good as Larson's 97 season.
Eh, compared to his peers, Walker's 1993 season is arguably just as impressive as Larson's 1997 season. In Walker's 1993 season, he was 6th in the nation in RBIs, 9th in the nation in slugging, batted .395, had an SEC record 33 game hit streak, shite he even had 11 triples. Larson hit a ton of homeruns with a juiced bat and juiced body. His stats were impressive, but I wouldn't say it's a fact that, when judging them relative to the eras in which they played, that Larson's 1997 season was unquestionably better than Walker's 1993 season.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:03 pm to lsufball19
That is a long ways away from the original position of Walker was the most productive Tiger in history. 
That's all I ever said. Larson's 97 season was unreal. Penalizing him because he hit a ton of home runs and not as many triples or whatever strikes me as a very slender reed. Larson had 58 XBH. Walker had 50.
By the way, what site do you use for historical individual stat rankings?
That's all I ever said. Larson's 97 season was unreal. Penalizing him because he hit a ton of home runs and not as many triples or whatever strikes me as a very slender reed. Larson had 58 XBH. Walker had 50. By the way, what site do you use for historical individual stat rankings?
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:09 pm to ell_13
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The GOAT
He sure was
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:09 pm to RummelTiger
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Well, you don't need to understand it, as it doesn't involve you.
thank you
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