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Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:55 am to Nix to Twillie
nix to silly ! You are setting your self up to enjoy be negative all year ,I get my dopamine flowing by looking forward to our team playing better every game !
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:55 am to TigerFanNKaty
Ricky, Down!
Posted on 8/30/16 at 12:05 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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There isnt a coach in cfb that is gonna give out pass play film with a win already comfortably in the bag. I understand what youre saying but thats not how coaches think. If a game is comfortably in the bag dont give you future opponents film and there is no need to open up your qb to injury in a game thats already won. Its a fine line between being stupid and getting a qb reps in an already won game.
While i agree if the game is truly in hand, like 28 points. it SEEMS like Les shuts her down on pretty much any double digit lead.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 12:24 pm to SportTiger1
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. it SEEMS like Les shuts her down on pretty much any double digit lead.
This is true..... However I have no problem throwing the ball in the 4th quarter of a game unless you are up by like 25-30 points... I don't see it as giving film study away to future opponents I look at it as something else they will have to worry about....
Posted on 8/30/16 at 12:44 pm to SportTiger1
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s. it SEEMS like Les shuts her down on pretty much any double digit lead.
The other team is trying to win also. This isnt just a lsu thing. Cfb games are won by a dominating quarter or two. There are very cfb teams deep enough to dominate from start to finish.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 12:54 pm to timm6971463
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nix to silly ! You are setting your self up to enjoy be negative all year ,I get my dopamine flowing by looking forward to our team playing better every game !
It's very easy to spot the people that have absolutely no clue what a thread is about but just have to pop in anyway.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 1:24 pm to dukke v
quote:This is something, to a degree, LSU needs for opposition to see! Be nice for them to fear the pass in game planning.
This is true..... However I have no problem throwing the ball in the 4th quarter of a game unless you are up by like 25-30 points... I don't see it as giving film study away to future opponents I look at it as something else they will have to worry about...
Posted on 8/30/16 at 1:29 pm to Elleshoe
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If he's better than 9/19 for maybe 140 yards this week I'll be pleasantly surprised. I don't think this coaching staff can put him in position to succeed
Great to see your Avi back on tRant!
Posted on 8/30/16 at 1:45 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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The other team is trying to win also. This isnt just a lsu thing. Cfb games are won by a dominating quarter or two. There are very cfb teams deep enough to dominate from start to finish.
The other team playing hard has nothing to do with shutting down our original game plan and going ultra-conservative. I've seen LSU go into clock eating mode at halftime.
Thats no fun
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:21 pm to SportTiger1
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The other team playing hard has nothing to do with shutting down our original game plan and going ultra-conservative. I've seen LSU go into clock eating mode at halftime
This is what all teams, that win consistently ,do. When youre up you try to shorten the game. You certainly dont throw a bunch to stop the clock on incompletions. Throwing the ball up 2 scores is a one of the easiest ways to let a team back in it.
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:23 pm to dukke v
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.. I don't see it as giving film study away to future opponents I look at it as something else they will have to worry about...
What? You think it's better for a DC to be able to gameplan for something just because they will worry about it rather than not allowing them to game plan for it at all because theyve never seen you run it?
Its far better for a dc to not know youre capable of something than it is to let them know youre capable of it.
A great example of this was in 2010 when we ran the TE reverse. It totally caught the defense off guard becaus they had never seen us run that play.
All im saying is that we have 1 qb. If we are up 14-20 points in the 4th quarter i dont want him taking unnecessary drop backs. If harris gets hurt our season is over. Our back up is done.
I'd much rather a dc not know we can pass the ball than know we can pass the ball.
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:32 pm to SportTiger1
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The other team playing hard has nothing to do with shutting down our original game plan and going ultra-conservative. I've seen LSU go into clock eating mode at halftime.
So what youre saying is that Miles changes game plans when we are up?
Im pretty sure youve said Miles never changes the game plan( i could be wrong. As you inow i respond to literally every post) but now youre saying he does change it but just at the dumbest possible time?
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Thats no fun
Our scheme is definitely not fun. By the 3rd quarter of every game i have no finger nails and have eaten an entire bag of sunflower seeds.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:36 pm to madddoggydawg
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Ricky, Down!
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madddoggydawg
It may be time to get some companions that are humans.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:38 pm to Nix to Twillie
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I have faith we'll see a balanced offense
you go with whatever works against crappy teams but when you face power house SEC teams you need many things.
20 straight runs and 20 straight passes is not quarterly balance against a great team. it may look balanced on the stat sheet but the game said otherwise
calling only 3 different pass plays 80% of the time we throw like we did in 2012 is way too predictable. same thing with too many runs in between the tackles like at bama last year. we had no horizontal stretches, jet sweeps, toss sweeps, speed options, bubble screens, etc.
need unpredictability.
have to use whole field and target mismatches.
backers fan out to help on bubble screen or jet sweep. attack the belly. safeties move up go over the top. safeties stay back target in between backers and safeties. get backers in mismatches.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:41 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Once we get a lead, Les will try to run out the clock, even if it's the first quarter. If he thinks for 1 second that we can run all over a team, we will do just that.
This just isnt true at all. Believe it or not our offense was pretty decent at putting up points last year.
We were 17th in the country (2nd in the sec)in points per play.
we were 14th in the country (1st in the sec) in 2nd half points for gods sake
These type of things are easy to look up rather than just regurgitating tired myths on here.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:41 pm to Rickdaddy4188
It can work both ways. So you are gonna wait till the Bana game to runs a bunch of new plays that haven't run in a game all year???? You have said yourself that there is not enough practice time to work on a bunch of new plays to get ready for certain teams.. However if we are up say 14-20 points in the 4th quarter, it depends on who we have that lead against. You should always try to score with a lead like that in the 4th. And if you play scared by eorrying that your qb gets hurt then that's not the answer either.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:43 pm to Fat Bastard
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same thing with too many runs in between the tackles like at bama last year.
We ran to the outside the entire 2nd half of the bama game last year. We tried everything against bama last year. After the 1st half we stopped trying to run inbetween the tackles man. We most certainly ran more than 3 pass plays in 2012. Do you really believe we ran the same 3 pass plays 80% of the time in 2012?
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:46 pm to Nix to Twillie
Not really. First real test doesn't come til October 8th. He should have decent passing numbers until that time. More concerned about moving the chains than raw stats.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:51 pm to dukke v
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o you are gonna wait till the Bana game to runs a bunch of new plays that haven't run in a game all year?
Yeah. If you want to beat bama you practice plays all year to save for that game. Youre not gonna beat bama by running the same plays youve run all year. Their staff is too good for that.
You either need to run some plays they havent seen or have a qb that can create outside of the pocket. The defensive talent that bama has amassed is unbelievable in the modern era of cfb.
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You have said yourself that there is not enough practice time to work on a bunch of new plays to get ready for certain teams..
Right im not saying you implement news plays during bama week. Im saying you set aside plays you dont call until bama. We also have 2 weeks for bama. Look im not saying we shouldnt get Harris game reps. We should. Im saying if we are up by 14-20 points in the 4th quarter i dont want out only qb to be taking drops and get hurt. I know you dont coach with injuries on the brain but there is a difference between that and being stupid. If we are up by 21 to a shite program we shluld be letting our rbs eat. Maybe if Etling hadnt went down it might be a tad different but if Harris gets hirt we can kiss this season good bye.
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