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Is our scheme on offense really that elementary ?

Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:47 pm
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20360 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:47 pm
Is the supposed simplicity of it just exaggerated or is it really just a few run plays and throwing bombs? I just can't see how someone that is paid millions can justify putting together such a simple scheme. I know there is more to it than what I described but it sure doesn't seem like it. Why bring in a former NFL coordinater if you are just going to handcuff him?
Posted by Ranger43
Tomball, TX
Member since Jan 2013
58 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 7:18 pm to
Absolutely! Game in and game out. The better coaches and teams have watched the films well!
Posted by Mulerider
Member since Jul 2013
1615 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:17 pm to
Ask this, out of all of the OC's that have been here in the last decade, have any of them run different plays or schemes or have they all been exactly the same?

Posted by camplsu
Section 210
Member since Feb 2007
1527 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:42 pm to
When was the last time we even ran a draw play?
Posted by Stud Bud
MS But travel all over the country
Member since Sep 2015
6958 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:47 pm to
It's pretty shitty.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:04 pm to
when you add in how badly coached it all appears their seems to be a problem particularly on the offense side of the ball.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89531 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:09 pm to
quote:

when you add in how badly coached it all appears their seems to be a problem particularly on the offense side of the ball.


I'm not going to deny that injuries on the OL clearly impacted the Arkansas game - and possibly the Bama game, in hindsight. Having said that, this team makes entirely too many mental errors - blown assignments in pass coverage - blown assignments in blocking (particularly pass blocking) - and the penalties...just...keep...adding...up.

I'm a certified positiger and I can see this team is fundamentally flawed. What we lost sight of was this was supposed to be an 8-4 year - with all the youth, lack of depth at LBer, starting so many true freshmen, etc. - they did so well (during the easy part of the schedule) early, it is making this tough stretch even worse.

However, the little things should be improving (missed assignments, penalties). They aren't. I'm as stumped as Miles, but I don't get paid $12k a day to handle it. He's clearly on the hot seat - winning out (and the bowl) will only do so much at this point.
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
9032 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:17 pm to
Other coaches have publicly commented on how predicatable our scheme is. It doesn't no matter who the OC is as long as Les is watching over things because he has the final say
This post was edited on 11/15/15 at 11:20 pm
Posted by plance
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
1593 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:20 pm to
Read an Athlon pre-season that had quotes from various assistant coaches in the SEC about LSU.

One of the quotes that's always stuck out to me was the coach who said, and I paraphrase, "LSU runs a base offense and the same plays over and over. They're successful because they're so physical and been able to recruit great athletes."

This was from 3-4 years ago…
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31014 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:23 pm to
Anyone with a tv knows our game plan. It never changes.



For a while, it worked. It's no secret now. There is no creativity on offense at all.


And for the most part, I like our ground and pound thing, I like that. With that being said, there has to be alternative gameplans.

There are little to no adjustments made. Just keep doing what doesn't work. Keep banging your head against the wall. That's what has so many fans, including myself, aggravated to no end.


Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16829 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:28 pm to
Seems as if it's the worst of both worlds.

On the one hand it's so simple that opposing defensive coordinators easily guess the plays we run. Hell, fans' wives, girlfriends, and small children correctly name the plays we run.

On the other hand, it's so complicated, it takes our quarterbacks years to learn it.
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 4:54 am
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76315 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:26 am to
quote:

One the one hand it's so simple that opposing defensive coordinators easily guess the plays we run. Hell, fans' wives, girlfriends, and small children correctly name the plays we run.

On the other hand, it's so complicated, it takes our quarterbacks years to learn it.


Exactly what I came to say. It's odd. It's telling that I can watch any other college game and not see an offense like LSUs.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10919 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:59 am to
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On the other hand, it's so complicated, it takes our quarterbacks years to learn it.

Simple solution. Recruit QB's that can run what Les and Cam want to run without a massive learning curve going from what they ran in high school to what they're going to be running at LSU! Cease and desist with the totally inane & crazy "SqPgRdHo" QB recruiting....................
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7350 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:06 am to
The closest offense to ours is arkansas ,but they have the best tight end passing scheme in college football plus their power runs plays are mixed with balanced passing.
Posted by say when
Member since Mar 2015
1613 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 5:00 am to
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Absolutely! Game in and game out. The better coaches and teams have watched the films well!



I don't think Bama even bothers to watch film anymore.
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
11710 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 7:02 am to
If we as fans can get a strong sense of what plays will be run then imagine someone who does this for a living can read.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 7:05 am to
It's pretty basic and stripped down.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22302 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 7:05 am to
(Gulp) Gary Crowton was the best OC to date under Miles.
Posted by Elrod
Where I belonged all along!!!
Member since Sep 2015
223 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 7:09 am to
Yes.
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