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re: Is it fair that the coach of LSU men's golf makes more than the softball coach?

Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:28 am to
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14889 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:28 am to
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Is it fair Nikki Caldwell makes more than Beth Torino?


shite is it fair that Caldwell or Vargas or whatever she calls herself these days makes more than any coach of any sport at LSU?
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23028 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:30 am to
Chuck was a national renowned golf tutor. I'm thrilled we got him at any price.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23028 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:30 am to
Chuck was a national renowned golf tutor. I'm thrilled we got him at any price.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:33 am to
quote:

Not arguing with your point but these are actually kind of close



So are Torina and Chuck

But that doesn't mean they should be compared.
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16405 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:35 am to
quote:

Is it fair Nikki Caldwell makes more than the janitor?


FIFY
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70117 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:36 am to
I would be interested to know where Torina, Winstead, and Caldwell rank in their respective sports.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14889 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:39 am to
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Torina, Winstead


top 10%

quote:

Caldwell


bottom 10%
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13848 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:39 am to
I would hope the men's golf coach would make more since golf matters much more than women's softball.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70117 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:39 am to
Salary wise.
Posted by tiger94gop
GEISMAR
Member since Nov 2004
2913 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:51 am to
Caldwell's salary is bull, she was making $300k, which was bumped from $150k to start, she left for $700k to $900k. She makes more than everyone but JJ, Les and the big coordinators. THere is nothing that says she had to be paid relative to the others in her sport, when we could have given her a 50% increase and there is no way she doesn't come here. She was essentailly unproven and hasn't done anything without Van's players.

I think Torina started low and will be bumped again, because of her sucess and where she started.

I am not sure the range for golf, but that does seem high for a a non revenue producer that really doesn't have a true fan following at the events to off set with outside revenue. Could be TAF money was targeted to get him at that price.

This is just another situation where Alleva was supposed to know a sport, really crapped the bed.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:52 am to
LSU men's golf won a national title so yea..

Also Beth is a hell of a coach that deserves a raise. I think it's criminal that the women's basketball coach makes more then both combined..
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71554 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

Comparing salaries of coaches in different sports is like comparing salaries of nurses and accountants.


It's amazing that so many on this site don't understand that.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7823 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

Is it fair Nikki Caldwell makes more than the average fast food worker?



No.
Posted by RoyaleWithCheese
Member since Jan 2013
596 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:09 pm to
Torina*... smh.

I believe Beth actually makes a lil more than $225,000 thanks to her coaches show
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27721 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:16 pm to
No...that is sexist. Fire F King
Posted by MAJ 8ch
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Sep 2014
107 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

show me some numbers that say softball generates money


Well, let's do some math...

According to LSU Sports website, everything in Tiger Park was sold out for the season (mostly by season ticket holders.)

They have about 450 seatbacks @ $150 ($67,500) and about 840 bleacher seats @ $75 ($63,000). Additionally, they have 30 suite seats at $350 ($10,500) and 960 club seats at $250 ($240,000). This is a total of $381,000 for the regular season, not including individual game ticket that they sell for $5 per game. Additionally, they made in the neighborhood of $150,000 in ticket sales hosting a regional, So I think it's safe to say they made at least $550,000 at the box office.

If you multiply the average game attendance of 1877 by the 39 games played in Tiger Park you'll get 73,302 fans that watched games this year. I'm guessing that most of them spent at least $10 each at the concession stands; however, I'll go with an average of $7 per person. That's another $500,000.

I have no idea how much they make from all the advertising you see around the stadium, but I'd guess it's pretty substantial. Also, I'm sure there's other sources of revenue I'm leaving out.


All told, I'd be surprised if Softball doesn't generate at least $2,000,000 per year (and I think that's being conservative).

I don't know what the program costs to operate, but I don't think they're a huge drain on the overall athletic department.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
5361 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

Is it fair that the coach of LSU men's golf makes more than the softball coach?
Chuck Winstead currently has a salary of $240,000 versus Beth Torino at $225,000.


what do you think?
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33448 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

He's won a natty. She hasn't. And it's unlikely she will if she couldn't win it with the talent she had the last couple years. Might be a long time before we see a team as talented.


You really need to take a great big dose of "shut the frick up". Go away. Your schtick and your trolling are so played out. We get it. You hate Beth Torina. Who knows why....and who cares really. Take your hate and creepiness elsewhere. Go root for Alabama or something.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19049 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

Non-revenue sports aren't going to pay all that much. DD Breaux makes 175k.


...and she sold out the PMAC more times that CJJ last season!
Posted by Shakita Bonita
5-0
Member since Dec 2015
1538 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 4:08 pm to
Huh, used to get lessons from ole Winsteadt
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