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nchawk
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re: Iowa vs LSU breakdown

Here's what Les Miles will say about Iowa

They're disciplined, well coached and physical. they play 4-3 with 2 deep zone on defense and usually stay in their base defense. On offense they use zone blocking and play action

He wont' say they're fast, athletic, agressive, creative, keep you guessing.


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BrewHawk
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re: Iowa vs LSU breakdown
Last year we did get a delay of game penalty in a hurry up offense trying to come back against Northwestern in the fourth quarter (some evidence of why we ended up 4-8).


CBandits82
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re: Iowa vs LSU breakdown
So Iowa is basically a run it down your throat offense with a couple passes thrown in?


BrewHawk
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So Iowa is basically a run it down your throat offense with a couple passes thrown in?



Basically...


...when we're not going five-wide.


Dallas Hawk
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So Iowa is basically a run it down your throat offense with a couple passes thrown in?



Yes, play action passing to our great TEs and our very average WR group.


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Iowa Golfer
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re: Iowa vs LSU breakdown
We're always going to attempt to be balanced. A lot of time the other team will load the box, and we'll keep running in to it. I suspect to set something up. Against Nebraska we did precisely this in the fourth quarter. I knew they were setting up either a roll out and throw to a TE, or misdirection bootleg. It was the latter. No one home for Nebby.

It infuriates most Iowa fans because they think we're running it in to a stacked box just to keep doing it, and even to me it seems like that is exactly what they're doing, until whammo, no one home on a roll out, or bootleg.

How we have evolved on offense is that we actually have very different offensive set ups depending on opponent. Against tOSU, we must have known we could throw to their weak secondary, and we came out with a 3 TE set, and threw. Threw successfully. I went to the Purdue game at that hell hole, and we ran. Set up run, and their LB's cheated to our strong side of the OL, the left side. We were rushing for over 5 yards a touch, and yet we came out in the second half and worked the side they were cheating to. Ran and threw to the right side. After a series or two, unsuccessful, we then went full bore in to the side they were cheating away from. even pulled a guard. Whammo. No one home.

Another poster gives a very accurate description on how we have evolved from a defensive perspective.

Against LSU we likely try to get TE/LB mismatches. We likely run. We might try some trickeration to loosen up the box.

It doesn't matter the difference in talent level, Ferentz, for all of his other flaws real or imagined, will have them ready. When and if you win, you will have won, and been in a game.

I spoke of intangibles earlier. this is some of what I was speaking to. On paper I don't see us winning, but the more I think about TE/LB, and possibly wearing your DL down, I do believe we have a fair shot.


SabiDojo
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re: Iowa vs LSU breakdown
Iowa: 17

LSU: 45


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Floyd of Rosedale
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re: Iowa vs LSU breakdown
1. Turnovers

2. Field Position

3. Special Teams Play


There's the game.



CBandits82
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re: Iowa vs LSU breakdown
What kind of D do y'all have?

Can your corners handle Juice and Odell?


Floyd of Rosedale
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re: Iowa vs LSU breakdown
NCAA stats


#7 in the nation in total defense.

There are some very interesting comparisons between the two teams statistically.
This post was edited on 12/12 at 8:37 pm


CBandits82
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re: Iowa vs LSU breakdown
Damn, top 10, no shite.


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Floyd of Rosedale
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re: Iowa vs LSU breakdown
Yeah, no shite.

But LSU #1 in the nation on 3rd down conversions on offense.

The teams stack up pretty well.


This post was edited on 12/12 at 8:39 pm


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Vanilla Coke
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re: Iowa vs LSU breakdown
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1. Turnovers

2. Field Position

3. Special Teams Play


There's the game.


I might add quality of players in that mix. I like our ever-so-slight edge there.


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Iowa4430
Iowa Fan
Member since Dec 2013
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What kind of D do y'all have?

Can your corners handle Juice and Odell?


Our corners are adequate.

#14 Desmond King is a true freshman and took the starting job after taking over for an injury and didn't give it back. He has done very well. Lot's of talk that he could end up being one of the better CB's to play at Iowa. The jury is still out but he has held his own most of the time. I've been satisfied with his play, freshman or not.

#19 BJ Lowery is a senior that has had a good year and will likely be drafted mid to late rounds. Probably a poor mans version of Micah Hyde and Speivey, former Hawks in the NFL. Not a speed burner but solid.

Again, neither are elite, shut down type CB's and the D philosophy over time for Iowa has been a cover 2 scheme which means they rely heavily on the Safeties.

1 on 1 your guys would be certainly at an advantage but as a team, Iowa can hold their own.


Iowa Golfer
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re: Iowa vs LSU breakdown
Can your corners handle Juice and Odell?

This is the question that bothers a lot of us. If they get in single cover situations, it could be a long game for us.


nchawk
Iowa Fan
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Member since Nov 2004
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re: Iowa vs LSU breakdown
Enough about Iowa. Lets hear about LSU. Talk to me when I'm listening to you.



The Big Hawk
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re: Iowa vs LSU breakdown
Really, our D relies on two things: ability to stop the run, and ability to pressure the QB. That's it. I am confident in the first, less confident, with a mobile QB, about the second.

On offense, we will spend much of the 1st quarter trying to establish the run, with the exception of obvious passing misdirection plays (pass to fullback, throwback TE screen pass, RB screen pass), with a slant or two thrown in, or maybe a WR screen at the LOS. We won't throw downfield unless we have to.

There's the key: when we HAVE a passing mismatch sort of play, a lot of us do not have confidence that we will hit on it. Something always seems to go wrong--the pass sails, or is dropped, or the WR falls down. That's why the run must be established early for us to win, because then it opens up make-able pass plays.

I still stand by the statement that our run D can and likely will do well for the bulk of the game. But our passing D--unless we pressure your QB the way we pressured Nebraska's--is very vulnerable.


Iowa Golfer
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re: Iowa vs LSU breakdown
Well I see some LSU fans finally got allowed on Hawkeye Nation.


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OilMan25
LSU Fan
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Member since Nov 2013
75 posts

re: Iowa vs LSU breakdown
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Enough about Iowa. Lets hear about LSU. Talk to me when I'm listening to you.


We will run the ball down your throats...you may be on the way back but even without Mett, I dont seeing yall putting up much of a fight


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167back
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Dos Gris
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re: Iowa vs LSU breakdown
After reading all five pages of this thread I'm seeing a lot of similarities between Iowa and the gators (at time we played them).

Solid DL and LBs to stuff the run.

Offense that wants to and has to establish the run for it to be effective.


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