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re: In game adjustments...Miles' biggest flaw...

Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:00 pm to
Posted by kew48
Covington Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
1104 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:00 pm to
It's incredible how many folks come to Miles defense regarding his clock management decisions. Name one division 1 coach who has had as many screw-ups as Les Miles. I truly feels as if he does not have the mental capability to deal with this. Granted perhaps he has other qualities, but clock management is not one.
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
7877 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:04 pm to
Prepare thy anus for the sunshine pumpers to come in and try to explain how stupid you are for being right. Winning percentage winning percentage yada yada yada.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:25 pm to
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Winning percentage winning percentage yada yada yada.


Since you know everything or at lease you think you do, tell me what is more important in sports than winning? Jeez, some of you clowns really don't know which way is up! Winning percentage and playing for titles is what it's about.

Tell me all the programs in the last decade who played in more NCGs and has a higher winning percentage than LSU.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:28 pm to
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It's incredible how many folks come to Miles defense regarding his clock management decisions. Name one division 1 coach who has had as many screw-ups as Les Miles. I truly feels as if he does not have the mental capability to deal with this. Granted perhaps he has other qualities, but clock management is not one.

You might have a point.

Exactly how many has he had? I'm sure you have kept count.

Since you are charting these things, (and I truly trust that you are) who is in second place and how many?

TIA
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 7:41 pm
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
7877 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:31 pm to
Never said Miles was a bad coach you dingbat. The OP stated that Miles weakness as a coach is in game adjustments and any idiot can see that miles goes into every single game with the same gameplan and he wins or loses the game with the same gameplan. He never changes anything at halftime whether it's working or not. Now you can't honestly set here and tell me that you think miles is good at in game adjustments lol. He is a good coach no doubt but he does have weaknesses. The man is not a perfect coach as much as you think he is Mr. Defensive.
Posted by Hoodatt
Member since Feb 2005
2598 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:38 pm to
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That's my only knock on Miles. I Love every aspect about him as a person, recruiter, coach, etc. But what separates great coaches is the ability to make in game adjustments. If Miles can improve on this, the season will be very special. Too many examples to mention but anyone that follows LSU Football knows what I'm talking about.


I guess you missed the second half of the Ohio State game a few years back.

How about the adjustments during the Wisconsin game.

The team is always being adjusted. It's just that sometimes the other team makes adjustments to counter and sometimes your adjustments just don't work.

Oh well, nevermind. Gripers gonna' gripe.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:39 pm to
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nd any idiot can see that miles goes into every single game with the same gameplan and he wins or loses the game with the same gameplan. He never changes anything at halftime whether it's working or not.


You might be right too since you can see what adjustments have been made in alignment, assignments, personnel, etc. It's not easy for the average fan ( not YOU certainly, you are way better) to ascertain minute adjustments in such things as spacing, alignment, timing, angles, assignments, et. al.

And since you rely on your many years of coaching you can tell us how easy it is to abandon a game plan and run plays that haven't been practiced the prior week, if ever. I admit I have no clue as to how difficult that would be so I'm relying on your expertise in coaching big time football to enlighten me.

Thanks again.
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
7877 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:45 pm to
IDK you sound like the road scholar genius who knows all about everything and everybody affiliated with LSU sports is perfect and the greatest of all time. So you tell ME how easy it is to abandon a gameplan and run plays that haven't been practiced the prior week Mr genius?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:53 pm to
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The last couple years Harris has looked so confused at the LOS that its comical... I understand that they may WANT to do it on purpose... but I don't se this as the case with LSU the last couple years...its called having confidence in the QB...


Do you even watch the games? Every single qb that played for lsu has let the play clock run low and then snaps the ball. Literally every single one. The only time we dont do this its when we have no choice but to run a 2 min off.
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Wrong.... BTW this is an opinion....


No its not. Helmet radios are not allowed in cfb. They have to look to the sideline to get play.

ncaa debating on letting cfb coaches and plyers use helmet radios. so yes every team looks to the sidelines.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 7:56 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:59 pm to
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regarding his clock management decisions. Name one division 1 coach who has had as many screw-ups as Les Miles. I truly feels as if he does not have the mental capability to deal with this. Granted perhaps he has other qualities, but clock management is not one.


You clearly dont watch the nfl or other cfb coaches. Clock management happens on the reg in the nfl and cfb.
Also, the burden of proof is on the person making the claim. You have to prove that Miles has more than other coaches.
Hell Belichick has had multiple clock mismanagements in 1 game.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14859 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:00 pm to
maybe his biggest flaw is the inability to evaluate quarterbacks
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25094 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:00 pm to
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Which is it?



It was a timeout sandwiched by two delay of games. Please tell me how that happens to everyone.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:01 pm to
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IDK you sound like the road scholar genius who knows all about everything and everybody affiliated with LSU sports is perfect and the greatest of all time. So you tell ME how easy it is to abandon a gameplan and run plays that haven't been practiced the prior week Mr genius?



Not me. I admit I can't tell what adjustments have been made during the game.

Apparently you can since you declared flatly that Miles never does it. "any idiot can see that miles goes into every single game with the same gameplan and he wins or loses the game with the same gameplan. He never changes anything at halftime whether it's working or not."

So all I'm asking is how you know for sure that no adjustments are ever made.

You suggested that he make changes to the game plan during a game and I'm sure you know exactly what goes into a game plan since you have seen so many of them.

All I know about the game plan is that it contains plays for specific situations, like down, distance, field position, time, etc. Your experience is greater than mine so I'm counting on you to tell us how easy or difficult is it to just run new plays.

And what exactly is a road scholar?


Again thank you.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:02 pm to
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Prepare thy anus for the sunshine pumpers to


Stating facts about Miles tenure isnt pumping. Its called reality. Im sorry reality shits on your opinion.
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Winning percentage winning percentage yada yada yada.



Yeah how dare we use THE most important statistic, in determining a coaches success.

God i hate our ignorant and entitled fan base.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:06 pm to
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The OP stated that Miles weakness as a coach is in game adjustments and any idiot can see that miles goes into every single game with the same gameplan


Do you really believe Miles doesnt 4 adjust his gameplan from week to week?
Because if you are i now know i can ignore any future opinions you have about lsu football.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:09 pm to
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sports is perfect and the greatest of all time


Ive literally never seen any lsu fan, on here, post that.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

sports is perfect and the greatest of all time


Ive literally never seen any lsu fan, on here, post that.
Even Beefense acknowledges that Miles has shortcomings
Posted by rbf1216
Longwood, FL
Member since Jan 2008
91 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:10 pm to
I get as frustrated by the last minute losses to Bama as anything else. I'm still blown away by 2011. However, each year I hear from the announcers about his record of second half comebacks to 'victory'. Ugh.

On the other hand, we don't really concern ourselves with recruiting violations, etc. He is a professional, and well thought of nationally. Perhaps the second best recruiter out there. I lived through the BAD years. Just sayin.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:12 pm to
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I watch A ton of College football and don't see that many teams doing what LSU does.... There has been plenty of times LSU goes to near ZERO on the play clock before snapping the ball or having to call time out........


A study done in 2012 shows that LSU ran plays quicker that Auburn, Mississippi State, Florida, and Alabama.

Have you not watched those teams play?
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Member since Mar 2007
21783 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:25 pm to
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It was a timeout sandwiched by two delay of games. Please tell me how that happens to everyone.



Ok your post I replied to said false starts.


So that is a clock issue, but to be fair, after the second delay of game we hit a 40 yard pass so at least we made them count
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