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re: In game adjustments...Miles' biggest flaw...
Posted on 6/28/16 at 1:06 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 6/28/16 at 1:06 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:THIS! and not setting himself up to succeed by hiring the right coaches to make sure he has competent quarterbacks and mentor them. I've always thought he was way too damn stubborn and lacked creativity, but Les has to ground and pound because there is nothing else he trusts, and it's his own fault.
Miles' biggest flaw is projecting qb talent
With that said, this year may be a little different with Craig hopefully making a difference, and Cam being on the sideline to interact with the qb.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 1:14 pm to hbuc88
Insightful. Thanks for your contribution.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 1:17 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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When has this happened recently?
What are you calling recently? Auburn 2014 had a blunder. Last year against Alabama we had delay of game, time out, delay of game in succession (how is that even possible?). Against A&M last year our last meaningful possession before half was pretty bad. There was the baffling timeout decision against Ole Miss in 2013. It isn't really past him yet.
Now you raise a good point. Proper clock management is very challenging. It doesn't mean that Les should not be more competent on those decisions then he is.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 6/28/16 at 1:23 pm to Choctaw
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So you're one of the "wins on talent alone" idiots.
You really want to argue that point?
I guess that's a no
Posted on 6/28/16 at 1:27 pm to SCwTiger
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but Les has to ground and pound because there is nothing else he trusts, and it's his own fault.
He's not stubborn...he just has trouble trusting QBs. He's shown that when he has a QB he trusts he's willing to switch things up. This is a fact. 3 of the top 5 offenses in LSU history have been under Miles. This is also a fact.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 1:50 pm to therick711
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Miles' biggest flaw is clock management. That is not debatable
This
Posted on 6/28/16 at 2:02 pm to munchman
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Miles' biggest flaw is clock management. That is not debatable
Well it's currently being debated.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 2:11 pm to teeMike
Not being contrary, but I see many adjustments in games, not all work out as I'd like.
Many times LSU comes out after the half like a different team, often running repeatedly at a weak gap or throwing slant after slant (vs Arky) until D stops it.
Then there's adjustments when D goes quarter covers and frustratingly give up late scores.
And unfortunately there are games when no adjustment will work, like when opp front 7 camps in your backfield.
Many times LSU comes out after the half like a different team, often running repeatedly at a weak gap or throwing slant after slant (vs Arky) until D stops it.
Then there's adjustments when D goes quarter covers and frustratingly give up late scores.
And unfortunately there are games when no adjustment will work, like when opp front 7 camps in your backfield.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 3:26 pm to teeMike
CLM's biggest flaw is having a pre-historic predictable offense making it excruciating to watch
Posted on 6/28/16 at 3:34 pm to TigerFanNKaty
when miles stops trying to hide QB's and have a real offense...
Posted on 6/28/16 at 3:35 pm to therick711
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Last year against Alabama we had false start, time out, false start in succession (how is that even possible?).
That isn't clock management
Posted on 6/28/16 at 3:36 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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That isn't clock management
Not managing a play clock isn't clock management? How exactly? Is it not a play clock or do you think you can't manage a play clock? Let's just call it game management. You took a delay of game. You can't get the second play called or ran in time so you take a timeout (apparently that penalty was too much and the first one wasn't enough to call the timeout). Then, after meeting with your offense, you take another delay of game. Call it by any name, shouldn't happen.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 6/28/16 at 3:39 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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In 11 years he has what 7-8 mishaps
Some of these have been huge though.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 3:40 pm to RedTigerRulz
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Some of these have been huge though.
To be fair, for as often as he screws up situations like final drives or timeouts, it hasn't cost him as many games as you might think.
That being said though, if he isn't out bumbled by Dooley, he might not have been around to have his renaissance 2011 season. It is a big what if in LSU sports.
Same point with respect to his generous out of bounds call on Stevan Ridley's swing pass in the Arkansas game in 2009.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 6/28/16 at 3:55 pm to Choctaw
You think winning percentage . I think winning percentage against top 10 teams.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 3:55 pm to teeMike
I thought the knock on him was starting slow. Then putting teams away in the 4th.
Wouldn't that mean that in game adjustments were a strength
Wouldn't that mean that in game adjustments were a strength
Posted on 6/28/16 at 4:01 pm to teeMike
Agree 100%
I'd have a calm/cool/collected guy right next to assess the game situation at all times.
I'd have a calm/cool/collected guy right next to assess the game situation at all times.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 4:19 pm to therick711
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When has this happened recently?
What are you calling recently? Auburn 2014 had a blunder. Last year against Alabama we had false start, time out, false start in succession (how is that even possible?). Against A&M last year our last meaningful possession before half was pretty bad. There was the baffling timeout decision against Ole Miss in 2013. It isn't really past him yet. [/quote]
Do u watch anyone else play? Miles clock mgt has been much better than most the last 5 years. Watch other games and youll appreciate how good LSU has been in this area recently. Look at the rest of the SEC or the NFL for that matter. Phillip Rivers coming out of a timeout with the ball on the half yard line 4 seconds left in the game gets a delay penalty. How does that happen? U can knick pick clock mgt issues with any team. Start with Sumlin and Freeze.
Clock mgt is no longer a Miles flaw. It was at one point but it hasnt been recently. The last two years hes had a young QB facing these SEC defenses and loud hostile environments and still outperformed most.
And Poor game planning? Seriously.
When has this happened recently?
What are you calling recently? Auburn 2014 had a blunder. Last year against Alabama we had false start, time out, false start in succession (how is that even possible?). Against A&M last year our last meaningful possession before half was pretty bad. There was the baffling timeout decision against Ole Miss in 2013. It isn't really past him yet. [/quote]
Do u watch anyone else play? Miles clock mgt has been much better than most the last 5 years. Watch other games and youll appreciate how good LSU has been in this area recently. Look at the rest of the SEC or the NFL for that matter. Phillip Rivers coming out of a timeout with the ball on the half yard line 4 seconds left in the game gets a delay penalty. How does that happen? U can knick pick clock mgt issues with any team. Start with Sumlin and Freeze.
Clock mgt is no longer a Miles flaw. It was at one point but it hasnt been recently. The last two years hes had a young QB facing these SEC defenses and loud hostile environments and still outperformed most.
And Poor game planning? Seriously.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 6/28/16 at 5:10 pm to teeMike
What are you talking about? Clock issues yes a problem. In game adjustments? Search the forums for 4th quarter comebacks and see if Miles has adjustment problems. Man has more comebacks than anybody iirc.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 5:27 pm to tigerfoot
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I thought the knock on him was starting slow. Then putting teams away in the 4th.
Wouldn't that mean that in game adjustments were a strength
No, that's just wearing teams down by running the ball for 4 quarters.
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