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re: I'm hoping Miles doesn't regret using JJ all game for BCSNCG

Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:47 am to
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41293 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:47 am to
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There is no need to critisize JL to build up JJ... Thats what you do... thats what several of you do.
I know it happens, you know it happnes... just admit it and move on.





pot meet kettle
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:49 am to
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Considering JJ was 2/8 for 7 yards in the 1st half and then went 3/5 for 23 and a touchdown in the 2nd he played better


I would be absolutley emabarrased to post what you just posted and to try to make a serious arguement with that... its not funny or comical, its embarrassing.
Thats best way I can put it.
This post was edited on 12/7/11 at 10:51 am
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32154 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:54 am to
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I would be absolutley emabarrased to post what you just posted and to try to make a serious arguement with that... its not funny or comical, its embarrassing.
Thats best way I can put it.


So going from a 25% completion to a 60% isnt better? Running the option very well in the second half wasnt better? 23 isnt more than 7? 1 isnt better than 0? I never said he played great I said he played better. He looked calmer. He did what the coaches asked of him. I said I wish we would have thrown it more to get more practice and larger sample size.
Posted by 2007lsuno1
Marietta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
6692 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:55 am to
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41293 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:55 am to
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He did what the coaches asked of him.


Which is all that matters if it leads to the W.

13-0 SEC Champions Go JJ Go Lee Geaux Tigers !!

Posted by Kenny B
Breaux Bridge, LA
Member since Dec 2011
25 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:55 am to
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JJ had not had enough practice for 9 weeks and therefore needed as many snaps in real time as possible and unfortunately that cut into Lee's time.


So I take it you are fine going into a NC game with two qb's and one of them has basically been on ice for three games.

I would feel alot better about the whole situation if Lee would have had a chance to shake off the 1st Bama game just in case we need him in this game. Not saying JJ should not start or get most snaps (thats up to CLM) but why not at least be prepaired for the worst. I feel CLM has put himself at a disadvantage by not giving JL a couple series in the last few games. Am I alone in this thinking?
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:57 am to
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If JJ is so valuable to Les' gameplan, why is he not protected and sat on the bench so he's not hurt?


He mainly "sat on the bench" till the 7th game of the season.

Maybe the staff thinks he needs to play as much as possible now.

Didn't JL start and get the majority of the snaps till the 10 game of the year?

quote:

difficult to comprehend


The LSU staff feels JJ starting offers LSU the best chance at be successful. They felt that way last season, they felt that way to start this season, and they feel that way now.

We not talking bout bout a staff leading LSU to mediocrity, but to greatness.

I'll roll with the LSU staff and just enjoy the ride without 2nd guessing their understanding of college football/what's best for LSU and others can do as they please.


Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:58 am to
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So going from a 25% completion to a 60% isnt better? Running the option very well in the second half wasnt better? 23 isnt more than 7? 1 isnt better than 0? I never said he played great I said he played better. He looked calmer. He did what the coaches asked of him. I said I wish we would have thrown it more to get more practice and larger sample size.


GDMNIT

FUCCCCCCCCCCCCCK.

Yes He played better.... BUT FOR GOD"S SAKE HE COULDNT HAVE POSSIBLY PLAYED ANY frickING WORSE!!!!!!!!!

Arguing with you people is like talking to a brick fricking wall.
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEES, Im about to blow another fricking gasket.
This post was edited on 12/7/11 at 10:59 am
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:58 am to
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There is no need to critisize JL to build up JJ...


How come you don't say anything when I criticize JJ? Or better yet why do you criticize JJ to build up JL?
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
2993 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:58 am to
I for one havent said that Lee should start because Les needs to be fair to him. I agree Les has treated him pretty crappy but as far as starting. I would find it hard to believe you could find another qb with a 14-3 TD/INT ratio.

Not to mention JJ's performance Sat nite. No first downs in the entire first half 25 yards total offense and that isnt even his worse game in the last 2 years. He has had several that were in that range!
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:01 am to
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How come you don't say anything when I criticize JJ?


fair critizim is fine.. there is nothing wrong with it.
But to do it to take deserved heat (like JL vs alabama or JJ vs UGA) off the other guy is bs.
quote:

Or better yet why do you criticize JJ to build up JL?

I make every attempt to NOT do this... sometimes when you are comparing the two its impossible to avoid it.. but to bring the other guy up out of the blue when the converstation isnt going in that direction is bullshite... thats what Im talking about.. some people here, not saying you in paticualar do it EVERY frickING TIME... thats all they have to say.
This post was edited on 12/7/11 at 11:03 am
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32154 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:03 am to
quote:

GDMNIT

FUCCCCCCCCCCCCCK.

Yes He played better.... BUT FOR GOD"S SAKE HE COULDNT HAVE POSSIBLY PLAYED ANY frickING WORSE!!!!!!!!!

Arguing with you people is like talking to a brick fricking wall.
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEES, Im about to blow another fricking gasket.



There. Good. Its ok to admit there was improvement in the 2nd half. Its healthy. The only reason I brought the stats up was because you told someone to spare the 2nd half bs. I think there was some validity to that (as backed up by stats,) but we didnt throw much. It would have been nice to get some practice and air it out some more though.

If you dont want to deal with statistics dont completely dismiss someones argument that the 2nd half was better.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:06 am to
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Adam Banks


ok bud you win.
JJ played better in the second half vs uga.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:08 am to
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Considering JJ was 2/8 for 7 yards in the 1st half and then went 3/5 for 23 and a touchdown in the 2nd he played better




I would be absolutley emabarrased to post what you just posted and to try to make a serious arguement with that... its not funny or comical, its embarrassing.
Thats best way I can put it.


You say JL played fine in Oregon game. LSU led by 3 at half. 2nd half stats JL was 2-7 for 44 yds and LSU smoked Oregon in 2nd half. If that was JJ would you say he played fine?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32154 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:09 am to
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ok bud you win.
JJ played better in the second half vs uga.


Thanks. If it makes you feel any better I thought he looked terrible in the first half and was telling my buddies that we need to go to Lee to change things up.
Posted by CalTiger
California
Member since Jan 2004
3997 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:11 am to
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So I take it you are fine going into a NC game with two qb's and one of them has basically been on ice for three games.

What I would like is Michael Vick but I am not getting it and there is no avoid or escaping this one.
quote:

I would feel alot better about the whole situation if Lee would have had a chance to shake off the 1st Bama game just in case we need him in this game. Not saying JJ should not start or get most snaps (thats up to CLM) but why not at least be prepaired for the worst. I feel CLM has put himself at a disadvantage by not giving JL a couple series in the last few games. Am I alone in this thinking?


We will win with JJ alone and Lee probably comes in for the last snap if at all.

The Bama game INTs hastened (and didn't initiate) JJ's taking back the starter position. In any case he was going to be the starter by Ole Miss time.

This has happened with multiple teams and positions all the time, starter gets hurt (and then transitions) and takes back the position.
The only difference in our case is that the starter was pretty much meh... and therefore we didn't care about the difference in skill sets. Apparently the coaches do care about that small difference
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:13 am to
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I make every attempt to NOT do this... sometimes when you are comparing the two its impossible to avoid it.. but to bring the other guy up out of the blue when the converstation isnt going in that direction is bullshite... thats what Im talking about.. some people here, not saying you in paticualar do it EVERY frickING TIME... thats all they have to say.


To be honest I am harder on JL when you are posting. you bring that out in me b/c most of your posts are so pro JL and anti JJ. I have stated many times over i thought JL played great and should have kept starting. If he throws a bad pass I call it a bad pass just as I do when JJ does(OK insert your joke here). JJ holds on to the ball too long and JL panics when the protection breaks down. It is what it is.
Posted by 2007lsuno1
Marietta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
6692 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:14 am to
Your going to let this site drive you crazy. And I honestly feel you.
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
2993 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:18 am to
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You say JL played fine in Oregon game. LSU led by 3 at half. 2nd half stats JL was 2-7 for 44 yds and LSU smoked Oregon in 2nd half. If that was JJ would you say he played fine?


No but based on his 4 yard performance vs McNeese St and his being quoted as saying he thought his play was fine I would say JJ would say that!
Posted by msully
Nashville
Member since Aug 2011
1054 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:20 am to
Wow , then how will LSU win ?? The run was not very good in the 1st game was it . I bet Saban has been Spending Quality Time with his field goal kicker . Don't you ??

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