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re: I'm hoping Miles doesn't regret using JJ all game for BCSNCG

Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:10 am to
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:10 am to
Does Coach Miles regret using JL during the Alabama game? Of course not! Our coach has class and puts team first which is why he does not regret playing JL in the Bama game. Each player has the opportunity to succeed. Unfortunately both our QB's are average at best. We only win games because the QB must protect the ball from turnovers and we have a strong running game. And for this reason Coach Miles is winning Coach of the Year Awards!

On a side note: Coach Miles will use all the players that give LSU the best chance to win the game against a very good Bama team focused on getting a revenge win against LSU. Which ever players perform best in the game will play. Any players who make mistakes and are not having their best game will be replaced by our many damn strong back ups.

It drives teams nuts that we are winning by such huge margins with average at best QB play. It is what it is. Our defense, running game and special teams are wining games. Not our passing game.
This post was edited on 12/7/11 at 10:19 am
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9384 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:10 am to
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because Les likes an option running QB


I'm sorry for Les having to suffer through Matt Flynn....

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There is nothing weird going on


8-0 QB, #1 and he's not good enough to see the field in an arse raping of UGA, or WKU, or OM, or Arky? If JJ is so valuable to Les' gameplan, why is he not protected and sat on the bench so he's not hurt?

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This factoid is difficult to comprehend or be accepted by the fans/media.


If so many people feel this way, maybe there's something there? Where there's smoke, there's fire? It really is a dead horse, but there are many that are curious and there are some that say shut up there's nothing to see here.

Posted by CalTiger
California
Member since Jan 2004
3997 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:10 am to
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Bottom line is JJ is LM's guy.
I just wish Les would quit with the bullshite answers when asked questions about it.


Les thinks that JJ gives the best option to win the game according to the coaching plan that he has in mind.

If after 7 years you are unable to get past Les' coachspeak then you are only torturing yourself. The decision as evidenced by JJ starting since Bama is quite obvious.

When a mic is thrust into your face, you are not going to say that "Lee is now the backup forever" because
1. You don't know if you might change your game plan or if JJ gets injured.
2. It is harsh to say that (even if true) about any player when you can give a milder (if slightly untrue) reply.
This post was edited on 12/7/11 at 10:11 am
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
2993 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:11 am to
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Yes and the outcry because of it is ridiculous. Every coach has their "guy". SOME lsu fans think this is a new concept.


Agreed unfortunately you would think fans on message boards would be able to state differing opinions or should every post be LSU is the greatest team ever? JJ is the greatest qb in the history of college football and so on.

Miles picked JJ. JJ is JJ has had a bad game for every good game he has played the last 2 years.

What many dont like is the JJ fan club coming on here and telling us what a great qb JJ is and how it should be obvious to anyone who isnt a racist!

Dont piss on us and tell us its raining!
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:12 am to
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In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter what he says.


Sure it matters.
That's if of course you care about the situation/topic.
Posted by Kenny B
Breaux Bridge, LA
Member since Dec 2011
25 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:17 am to
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You act like that is a normal occurrence. The offense was terrible in the first half against Georgia, I fully agree. But to act like that is the norm is ridiculous. I will bet ANYTHING that it doesn't look like that against Bama.


To act like Lee's int's against Bama is a normal occurrence judging from the first 8 games this season is equally ridiculous, but it has been treated as such.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41293 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:17 am to
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What many dont like is the JJ fan club coming on here and telling us what a great qb JJ is and how it should be obvious to anyone who isnt a racist!



Most of the backlash comes because of the Lee only crowd's incessant "fairness" and "equality" whining which has gotten out of control and to the point of borderline embarrassment.

This should be obvious to those that can think rationally.
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9384 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:17 am to
Fact is that Lee isn't even getting called on in spots like he was last year. In 2010 he'd still see game time when JJ was struggling or we were ahead. That's why it doesn't make sense.

JJ for most of the snaps in the BAMA game, even starting....I get that.

arse raping teams and Lee sees less time than last year tells me something more that "JJ is the greatest, don't question "the hat".
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33666 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:18 am to
Are you people STILL having this debate/discussion/nonsense?
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41293 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:19 am to
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To act like Lee's int's against Bama is a normal occurrence judging from the first 8 games this season is equally ridiculous, but it has been treated as such.



Lee's history against Bama disagrees with you.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:19 am to
Yeah some here convieniently forgot the 100 and WTF ever throws he made consecutivley without a pick.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:19 am to
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What many dont like is the JJ fan club coming on here and telling us what a great qb JJ is and how it should be obvious to anyone who isnt a racist!


I don't see that. He didn't play well in the first half against Georgia. Neither did anyone on offense.

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Dont piss on us and tell us its raining!


I watched the Oregon game again last night and there were tons of JL fans saying he had a great game. He did not have a great game. He threw quite a few bad passes. 2nd half he threw 6 total passes and when we pulled away (the final 25 minutes of the game) he only threw 2. Our team wins with defense, special teams, and a grind it out running game. The JL supporters act as if our passing offense is what made us 13-0. It isn't in the games we dominated we did so by running the ball over and over in the 2nd half. We have won despite having great QB play from whoever has been taking the snaps.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:22 am to
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don't see that. He didn't play well in the first half against Georgia. Neither did anyone on offense.


He didnt play worth a damn the whole game... spare this 1st half bs that ive seen you post 3-4 times since saturday.
JL played fine vs oregon just like he did rest of the year.
YOu dont have to try to belittle JL to take heat off JJ... common theme among his loudest supporters.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33666 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:23 am to
[quote]Dont piss on us and tell us its raining![/quote

It seems you all are pissing on each other...I hope you are enjoying it.
Posted by CalTiger
California
Member since Jan 2004
3997 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:25 am to
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I'm sorry for Les having to suffer through Matt Flynn....


If JL or JJ were even just as good as Matt, there would be no issue (running or passing specialty be damned)

It is because both of them are mediocre with obvious and glaring weaknesses that there are heated arguments by the supporting factions.
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8-0 QB, #1 and he's not good enough to see the field in an arse raping of UGA, or WKU, or OM, or Arky? If JJ is so valuable to Les' gameplan, why is he not protected and sat on the bench so he's not hurt?

You feel that he is entitled to playing time because he got to play for 8 games?

JJ had not had enough practice for 9 weeks and therefore needed as many snaps in real time as possible and unfortunately that cut into Lee's time.

BTW I don't subscribe to the view that we won because of JL or JJ. I think they are doing their best but they are cogs in the wheel whereas the D and ST are the driving force for the wins and are aided by the supporting cast on Offense.
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If so many people feel this way, maybe there's something there? Where there's smoke, there's fire? It really is a dead horse, but there are many that are curious and there are some that say shut up there's nothing to see here.



I don't understand - what smoke? I just came out and said that of the two Miles has started JJ and the only advantage he has over JL is running.

Miles likes a good running game and hence starts the QB who gives that running an advantage even if it is only an epsilon. The passing advantage that Lee has over JJ is apparently negated by the running advantage that JJ has over him.
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9384 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:30 am to
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CalTiger


It's too bad more posters cannot argue rationally such as yourself.

You have valid points...
This post was edited on 12/7/11 at 10:32 am
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:32 am to
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He didnt play worth a damn the whole game... spare this 1st half bs that ive seen you post 3-4 times since saturday.


We scored 35 points in the second half.

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JL played fine vs oregon just like he did rest of the year.


He played OK not great. You are delusional if you think he played great. I have asked you probably 100 times to tell me one game JL won with his arm for LSU this year and you have NEVER answered...want to answer it this time?

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YOu dont have to try to belittle JL to take heat off JJ... common theme among his loudest supporters


You are so enamoured with JL that constructive criticism is viewed by you as belittling JL. I have no problem stating the weaknesses of both QB's you however are so out of touch with reality you can't admit JL has weaknesses.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32154 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:33 am to
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He didnt play worth a damn the whole game... spare this 1st half bs that ive seen you post 3-4 times since saturday.
JL played fine vs oregon just like he did rest of the year.
YOu dont have to try to belittle JL to take heat off JJ... common theme among his loudest supporters.



Considering JJ was 2/8 for 7 yards in the 1st half and then went 3/5 for 23 and a touchdown in the 2nd he played better. Also he was running the option a lot and doing that well. Notice I said played better not great. He was efficient in the second half with what the coaches asked him to do. Thats what Lee had done before Bama. I think he could have done it after bama too.
JJ did not have a good first half. He played better in the 2nd but the coaches didnt ask him to do much. I wish they would have let him throw it some more because we need someone to throw it some and apparently they want to ride JJ for better or worse.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41293 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:43 am to
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YOu dont have to try to belittle JL to take heat off JJ... common theme among his loudest supporters.



You can't be fricking serious. JJ supporters for the most part talk about JJ's positives and never usually put down Lee. While Lee supporters shite all over JJ to prop up Lee to Favre like status.

If you are trying to use a game where Lee played great. Oregon is not really the game to point that out. 10-22.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:46 am to
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We scored 35 points in the second half.


Come on man you are better than this.
You know JJ had little to noting to do with that.

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He played OK not great.

I never said anywhere he played great.. I said he played fine.
You even quoted what I said and you are still trying to argue.,.,. I really think some of you just like to argue with me.

Its not about JL's "weaknesses".. has absolutlely noting to do with that.
Im going to say it one more time for you.. try to pay attention... There is no need to critisize JL to build up JJ... Thats what you do... thats what several of you do.
I know it happens, you know it happnes... just admit it and move on.
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