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Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:10 am to dcbl
I'm behind him win or lose he's a coach and so far he don't deserve criticism
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:13 am to otowntiger
frick u dick breath
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:17 am to dcbl
As long as lsu wins 8 games the endorphins in my brain are as satisfied as the endorphins in the brain of the national champion fan.
I don’t care who the 8 wins are against.
I don’t care who the 8 wins are against.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:20 am to JETigER
What is there to forgive ?
Grow up, we had two bad losses and wins since then ...
Grow up, we had two bad losses and wins since then ...
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:21 am to BigSlick
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so we're ENTITLED to championships
We are entitled with the years of top 10 recruiting on this team not to be crushed by Mississippi State and embarrassed by a fricking SBC Troy.
When you shite in your bed as LSU did in those two games, objective fans are going to complain about the stink.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:26 am to Nissanmaxima
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Sad part is it really doesn't matter what Coach O does. Many on here will still not except him as the head coach and that's truly sad!
The other 'sad' part is that there are some on here who would demand that he remain head coach regardless of how poor he does because they're just so tickled that one of the Rosey Finch Boyz dun got da job coaching LSU. They'd let the entire program suffer for the benefit of dey padnah. Sad, truly sad.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:29 am to dcbl
Jury will still be out until he sustains success, but it would certainly be a huge positive.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:31 am to tigertex1992
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The other 'sad' part is that there are some on here who would demand that he remain head coach regardless of how poor he does because they're just so tickled that one of the Rosey Finch Boyz dun got da job coaching LSU. They'd let the entire program suffer for the benefit of dey padnah. Sad, truly sad.
Really? Who are these people and when did they say this?
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:34 am to SammyTiger
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I think they did, but if you make 3.5 mill to motivate and recruit you shouldn’t need a ducking loss to Troy.
I agree. Losing to Troy is unacceptable. However, I also do not believe they would have gone on the three game winning streak they did afterwards had they edged out a win against Troy while playing crappily.
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 10:36 am
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:42 am to tigertex1992
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Sad part is it really doesn't matter what Coach O does. Many on here will still not except him as the head coach and that's truly sad!
Miles lover and Coach O haters will not quit.
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The other 'sad' part is that there are some on here who would demand that he remain head coach regardless of how poor he does
This is assumptive BS , I suggest we wait until he does poorly
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 10:44 am
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:59 am to dcbl
Why the frick would anyone care about the Troy loss at that point other than it would keep us out of the playoffs probably? In all seriousness, if we win out and go to the SEC championship game, no one should be complaining about anything.
frick, if we win 10, no one should be complaining about anything. That's a better season than most predicted in the first season of a head coach who has been lambasted by the fanbase and the national media.
If we beat Bama, we have to become even heavier favorites in our remaining games and the path to a championship in the SEC would become pretty much open right before our eyes. The only team that should give us real trouble would be Georgia in the championship game itself.
frick, if we win 10, no one should be complaining about anything. That's a better season than most predicted in the first season of a head coach who has been lambasted by the fanbase and the national media.
If we beat Bama, we have to become even heavier favorites in our remaining games and the path to a championship in the SEC would become pretty much open right before our eyes. The only team that should give us real trouble would be Georgia in the championship game itself.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:02 am to LoveThatMoney
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Why the frick would anyone care about the Troy loss at that point other than it would keep us out of the playoffs probably?
You're seriously asking why would anyone care about one of the worst losses in LSU history, certainly the worst loss of the past 20 years?
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:13 am to dcbl
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If y’all beat Bama, is all forgiven with Coach Eaux?
There is nothing he can do to win over the No-O's
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:14 am to rbdallas
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What is there to forgive ?
For me? Nothing. I'm behind the coaches and team 100% from day 1. Unlike some clowns on here, I don't feel ENTITLED to anything regarding LSU.
It's very simple...they're my favorite team, I spend money on tickets, gear, etc and when they win, I'm happy. When they lose, I'm disappointed. But at the end of the day it's just a football game for me. It doesn't affect my life one way or the other.
The funny part is you got idiots on here who are saying "yes, I'll forgive him and get back onboard". If that's not the definition of a bandwagon fan, then I don't know what is.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:18 am to dcbl
So first, there is nothing to “forgive”. O hasn’t done anything to me personally so I have nothing against him.
While I (currently) don’t want him fired, I’m not even close to believing that this was a great hire.
Here’s the problem. That “crappy loss” doesn’t go away. Three weeks ago the question was, “How did you lose to Troy??” If he beats Bama Saturday, the question then becomes, ”How did you lose to Troy with a team this good??”
Only time can smooth over that game. If he keeps winning he will be fine and people will forget about the hiring process and Troy.
While I (currently) don’t want him fired, I’m not even close to believing that this was a great hire.
Here’s the problem. That “crappy loss” doesn’t go away. Three weeks ago the question was, “How did you lose to Troy??” If he beats Bama Saturday, the question then becomes, ”How did you lose to Troy with a team this good??”
Only time can smooth over that game. If he keeps winning he will be fine and people will forget about the hiring process and Troy.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:20 am to LSUDonMCO
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There is nothing he can do to win over the No-O's
Why doesn't he go and win a NC to test your theory?
Until then these comments are ridiculous. You don't know how people would react.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:21 am to LSUDonMCO
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There is nothing he can do to win over the No-O's
People keep typing this, despite the fact that one of the loudest people on the board in regards to disliking this hire (ME) has gone out of his way multiple times stating EXACTLY what would have to happen in order to get on board with Orgeron. From page 2...
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First, is his hiring. There is absolutely NOTHING HE CAN EVER DO to make the process of his hiring by Alleva ok. The ends can never justify the means in regards to hiring our own DL coach who had the head coaching record he had. This is VERY important and can not be overlooked. Regardless of how things play out, Alleva MUST answer for HOW he hired this coach. If it works out, it's not a good move, it's a fricking miracle...and we ought not be hoping for miracles when hiring coaches for a Top 10 program.
Second, nothing Orgeron and the current staff do THIS YEAR can make his hiring much of a success in the long term sense...and I said that before the season started. Orgeron was hired for the SYSTEM, which was a CEO head coach (let's call it a figure head) who would not do a whole lot and hire the "best coordinators in the country" to be left alone to do their things. We already had Aranda on staff and money kept him here. Orgeron did go and get Canada, but again...we paid him an absolute king's ransom to come.
So we have two of the best...this staff needs to now win at a BETTER RATE than the previous staff did. That's step one. And in their first season together, that already has not happened. Step two is to replicate that type of season AFTER having to replace "the best coordinators in the country" when they inevitably leave for head coaching gigs elsewhere. This revolving door system is what we signed up for when we hired a head coach who said his goal was to be less involved and hire coordinators to be left alone to do their things, so until we see that it works we're still evaluating the first staff which we all understand is never going to be a long term one.
So now...beating BAMA doesn't do a bunch. It would, however, show a REALLY GREAT turn around form the beginning of the year, and that would be a HUGE accomplishment for this team and staff. I'm pulling for it...
Feel free to disagree with that point of view, but can we please quit pretending there is NOTHING Orgeron can do to win over people who are against this presently?
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:22 am to LSU Groupee
Ok, I'll jab the needle in a little bit. Down vote away.
I understand complaining about the stink. Any fan of any team is unhappy if it doesn't perform as expected.
I get that the MSU loss shouldn't have been as bad, although I don't think they could have won that game with the roster issues they were dealing with. I get that LSU should "never" lose to Troy, even with a young, depleted roster. (But a 99% chance of winning still means the other guys win one in a hundred.) However, even the greatest coaches lose games they shouldn't, especially when they haven't had time to get their programs running the way they want or in down cycles or when everything goes wrong (Fisher this year).
But why are you, or anyone else, entitled to anything? Maybe you have season's tickets; maybe you contribute to TAF; maybe you go to a game once in a while; maybe you just watch on TV. Why does any of that entitle you to anything? Do you have a contract with the school or athletic department that guarantees you certain performance goals each year?
Sorry, but you are not "entitled with the years of top 10 recruiting on this team not to be crushed by Mississippi State and embarrassed by a fricking SBC Troy." No fan of any team is entitled to anything except the right to complain if you don't like what you're seeing. You can do that all you want, but objective fans will try to understand the causes before they just start spewing bile.
Saban himself was just recently quoted as saying that it sometimes takes a game like Troy to wake a team up. And it doesn't matter who's coaching or what he tried to do.
People must live a pretty charmed life if they expect everything to always work out the way they want. It must be nice to have never been beaten up by life and had to learn that things don't always go as planned. It must be nice to live in fantasyland where nothing ever goes wrong and you can always blame someone for not giving you what you want.
I understand complaining about the stink. Any fan of any team is unhappy if it doesn't perform as expected.
I get that the MSU loss shouldn't have been as bad, although I don't think they could have won that game with the roster issues they were dealing with. I get that LSU should "never" lose to Troy, even with a young, depleted roster. (But a 99% chance of winning still means the other guys win one in a hundred.) However, even the greatest coaches lose games they shouldn't, especially when they haven't had time to get their programs running the way they want or in down cycles or when everything goes wrong (Fisher this year).
But why are you, or anyone else, entitled to anything? Maybe you have season's tickets; maybe you contribute to TAF; maybe you go to a game once in a while; maybe you just watch on TV. Why does any of that entitle you to anything? Do you have a contract with the school or athletic department that guarantees you certain performance goals each year?
Sorry, but you are not "entitled with the years of top 10 recruiting on this team not to be crushed by Mississippi State and embarrassed by a fricking SBC Troy." No fan of any team is entitled to anything except the right to complain if you don't like what you're seeing. You can do that all you want, but objective fans will try to understand the causes before they just start spewing bile.
Saban himself was just recently quoted as saying that it sometimes takes a game like Troy to wake a team up. And it doesn't matter who's coaching or what he tried to do.
People must live a pretty charmed life if they expect everything to always work out the way they want. It must be nice to have never been beaten up by life and had to learn that things don't always go as planned. It must be nice to live in fantasyland where nothing ever goes wrong and you can always blame someone for not giving you what you want.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:23 am to magildachunks
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I've already forgiven him. He's got a very young team, and he led them out the depths. Win or lose, these tigers got a bright future.
Any person with half a brain would upvote and agree with this.
Unfortantley the billJ baggins posters of the world still are pouting like a bitch.
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