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re: If we wanted Lee on 1/9, then we should have tried BH last night

Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:16 am to
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:16 am to
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How does a guy lose his job 3rd game into his JR season after year under his belt ?



Elting lost his job game one to a freshman at Purdue.

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Why should anyone here have to prove the Danny Etling is a better qb than Brandon Harris?



Argument sake. I mean rational people would call this a debate OP posed a question reasonable people who disagree would present facts supporting their belief. Instead trailer trash like you come in guns blazing with some type of white power agenda.

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Has he not done that with his play on the field since he took over?


frick no. Jax St and Auburn come to mind.

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Will you STFU about this if DE plays well against ark?


If Etling doesn't should he?

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It amazes me how fricking arrogant and agenda driven some you people are when the HEAD COACH of the team says the other qb isn't a mother fuvking option.



Link? O said in an interview that Harris is one play away from being the starter. Now he is saying that he is not a fricking option? Wierd.

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Must really burn your little heart out.



Again what is it that you do for a living?



Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:16 am to
Couple questions I need answered so I can at least attempt to understand your point....

How did DE lose it exactly?
What exactly did he lose?

Did Brandon lose his job based on one game?
Should a qb be judged on the offenses stats as a whole or his individual stats?
Posted by Surv1vor1st
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2009
1549 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:16 am to
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It amazes me how fricking arrogant and agenda driven some you people are when the HEAD COACH of the team says the other qb isn't a mother fuvking option. 


Etling wasn't an option until he finally got put in.

Meyer has Tebow starting over Cam Newton. Sometimes coaches go with the current player for continuity nit because he's necessarily the better QB.
Posted by AcetheTigah
Woodlands, TX
Member since Jan 2005
220 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:17 am to
I don't know about that but a good coach utilizes the talents of the entire roster

We should have used both quarterbacks in ways that they were able to utilize their talents. Definite plays designed to let them use their strengths to change up the offense and tendencies against the defense.

I was hoping they had some designed plays for Brandon Harris to run several pre-called plays that would get Alabama off balance and more into the wait and react more than letting them attack upfield automatically.

I also think they should have tried more draws and an occasional shovel pass or a slightly delayed screen
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262997 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:19 am to
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Link? O said in an interview that Harris is one play away from being the starter. Now he is saying that he is not a fricking option? Wierd.


Harris isn't a QB. He's an athlete with a good arm. Scott is a more logical choice than Harris.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:20 am to
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I don't know about that but a good coach utilizes the talents of the entire roster

We should have used both quarterbacks in ways that they were able to utilize their talents. Definite plays designed to let them use their strengths to change up the offense and tendencies against the defense.

I was hoping they had some designed plays for Brandon Harris to run several pre-called plays that would get Alabama off balance and more into the wait and react more than letting them attack upfield automatically.


I mean you know Saban and crew have religiously watched ever down O has coached since taking over and it showed.

We should have atleast let Harris come in to surprise them even if Harris was just in to hand the ball off something to make them change their game plan.

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I also think they should have tried more draws and an occasional shovel pass or a slightly delayed screen



We threw one screen pass I believe, but it was well not delivered to the receiver accurately.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:23 am to
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Harris isn't a QB. He's an athlete with a good arm.



Athletes with good arms tend to win national championships and Heisman at other programs of similar caliber.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5704 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:27 am to
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Did Brandon lose his job based on one game? Should a qb be judged on the offenses stats as a whole or his individual stats?


You do know BH has better career stats than DE.


BH 20 TD 10 INT

DE 23 TD 16 INT


BH best season was 13 TD 6 INT
DE best season was 10 TD 7 INT


More telling though is how BH played vs Wisconsin and how DE played vs Auburn.

Both was under Miles.
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:29 am to
If bama would have been flagged on the targeting of the etling slide then etling would have finally settled down. but we know bama doesn't get that call against them.
Posted by AcetheTigah
Woodlands, TX
Member since Jan 2005
220 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:29 am to
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We threw one screen pass I believe, but it was well not delivered to the receiver accurately.


The short touch passing that Elting showed more proficiency than Harris certainly did not happen against Bama.

They need to be working on all the qbs to get this down. If one of them is having trouble with this basic skill in a game they need to rotate in the next guy to get it done - at least give it a try.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262997 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:31 am to
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Athletes with good arms tend to win national championships and Heisman at other programs of similar caliber.


Not really, Harris doesn't have the instincts to be QB at a high level. His pocket presence and ability to see the field don't exist. His footwork and delivery are awful.

He's probably better suited to another position than QB. He was always a project, but the staff did little to develop him. In fact, his mechanics seem worse.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:32 am to
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The short touch passing that Elting showed more proficiency than Harris certainly did not happen against Bama.



I mean he has been spotty but still better than Harris. Etling has missed on some short passes since he has been starting.

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They need to be working on all the qbs to get this down. If one of them is having trouble with this basic skill in a game they need to rotate in the next guy to get it done - at least give it a try.



We just need a dedicated proven QB coach. Something has tainted the water at LSU with Qb development and it is time to start fresh.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5704 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:34 am to
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Not really, Harris doesn't have the instincts to be QB at a high level. His pocket presence and ability to see the field don't exist. His footwork and delivery are awful.


Well then what does DE have? because BH stats are better than DE as far as TD per INT
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:36 am to
Geees.


I'm speechless.
It's not even worth the effort.


I'll tell you what you should do.
Start a new thread asking who thinks Harris should take over for Etling bc he has better career stats.
See how that works out for you.

Come on Rick daddy.
You're better than this.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262997 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:36 am to
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We just need a dedicated proven QB coach


I think we need a better S&C guy and a real offensive coordinator.

To be fair to Harris, he's really not developed since being at LSU, but no QB has. Even Mett brought his skills with him. Harris was raw and would have done much better going somewhere that gave him a better chance to develop. An offense which better utilizes his athletic ability
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:39 am to
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Not really, Harris doesn't have the instincts to be QB at a high level. His pocket presence and ability to see the field don't exist. His footwork and delivery are awful.



I agree he just doesn't play the position with his head. From most accounts he is not dumb kid it is just that the football concepts do not click in his head. He probably would have red shirt if we weren't in a mess at the position when he got here.

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He's probably better suited to another position than QB. He was always a project, but the staff did little to develop him. In fact, his mechanics seem worse.



exactly
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5704 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:41 am to
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I'm speechless. It's not even worth the effort. I'll tell you what you should do. Start a new thread asking who thinks Harris should take over for Etling bc he has better career stats. See how that works out for you. Come on Rick daddy. You're better than this.


So if stats don't matter to you then fine. Just say they don't matter and save us 30 god dang minutes.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:41 am to
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I think we need a better S&C guy and a real offensive coordinator.


I would add to that list oline coach.

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To be fair to Harris, he's really not developed since being at LSU, but no QB has. Even Mett brought his skills with him. Harris was raw and would have done much better going somewhere that gave him a better chance to develop. An offense which better utilizes his athletic ability


This is why we have to install a new system here when it comes to the qb position. I swear if Narcisse and Brennan do not pan out I am done and we should just run whatever offense Georgia Tech runs.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262997 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:42 am to
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Well then what does DE have? because BH stats are better than DE as far as TD per INT



This year?

Etling has the mechanics, awareness, and ability to see the field. though if he plays as badly though vs Arkansas he needs to come out.

However, Harris shouldn't be the next guy up.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 11:43 am
Posted by bamacoullion
Fayette, Alabama
Member since Oct 2008
1785 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:42 am to
Harris proved he sucked, Lee proved otherwise.
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