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I just want to confirm the story of why LSU did not pull the trigger last year.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 8:58 am
Posted on 9/27/16 at 8:58 am
Summer through the fall of 2015: F. King Alexander is in a tough LSU funding fight with the state who is having its own fiscal issues.
Les Miles gets on the coaching hot seat after the 3 loss debacles to Alabama, Arkansas and Ole Miss.
Joe Alleva and TAF boosters make a push to fire miles. The most substantial rumor is that Jimbo was ready to make the move from FSU to LSU after the 2015 season.
Les Miles gets an emotional response from the team and fans at the aTm game that many thought would be Les's last game.
Given the fact that F. King and Bobby Jindal were under a lot of pressure through the year due to budget constraints Jindal stepped into the coaching situation and put pressure on F. King to nix the deal. The assumption is that F. King and Jindal were worried about the perception of spending money to buy out Les and hire a new coach while the university is struggling with budget issues. Even though the funds for education come from a totally different bucket than the athletic department, Jindal and F. King were still worried about the negative perception of their fiduciary responsibilities.
So they nixed the deal.
I'm just trying to understand the timeline and facts. Does that about sum it up? Please correct any information I have wrong or include any info I omitted.
Les Miles gets on the coaching hot seat after the 3 loss debacles to Alabama, Arkansas and Ole Miss.
Joe Alleva and TAF boosters make a push to fire miles. The most substantial rumor is that Jimbo was ready to make the move from FSU to LSU after the 2015 season.
Les Miles gets an emotional response from the team and fans at the aTm game that many thought would be Les's last game.
Given the fact that F. King and Bobby Jindal were under a lot of pressure through the year due to budget constraints Jindal stepped into the coaching situation and put pressure on F. King to nix the deal. The assumption is that F. King and Jindal were worried about the perception of spending money to buy out Les and hire a new coach while the university is struggling with budget issues. Even though the funds for education come from a totally different bucket than the athletic department, Jindal and F. King were still worried about the negative perception of their fiduciary responsibilities.
So they nixed the deal.
I'm just trying to understand the timeline and facts. Does that about sum it up? Please correct any information I have wrong or include any info I omitted.
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 9:00 am
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 8:59 am to GumboPot
Allegedly pretty much true
Posted on 9/27/16 at 8:59 am to GumboPot
Pretty much.
If everyone cant have nice things no one can have nice things.
More government please
If everyone cant have nice things no one can have nice things.
More government please
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 9:01 am
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:04 am to GumboPot
I just don't understand the negative perception of the buyout. Why can't LSU come out with a statement that any buyout comes from private funds and does not impact the budget?
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:04 am to GumboPot
What these dumbasses fail to realize is that putting a good football product on the field is one of the best things for university and the state.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:06 am to Cosmo
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Allegedly pretty much true
Yeah, because I was listening to Mike and Mike and Ryan Clark this morning and they were being critical of the LSU Admin for not firing Les last year. They totally omitted the fiscal pressures surrounding the university last year. If the state were not under such fiscal pressure (due to low oil prices, thus lower tax revenues) Les's would have easily been fired last year.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:07 am to GumboPot
That's what was reported in the advocate. It was stupid then and it looks just as dumb now. Thanks Jindal
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:09 am to gumbeaux
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I just don't understand the negative perception of the buyout. Why can't LSU come out with a statement that any buyout comes from private funds and does not impact the budget?
That makes total sense however Jindal and F. King apparently thought they did not have the political capital to fight that battle when Jindal and the state legislature was making budget cuts all over the state.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:10 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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What these dumbasses fail to realize is that putting a good football product on the field is one of the best things for university and the state.
I agree.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:12 am to GumboPot
There's also a rumor some people reached out to Jimbo last year and he said no. Making the decision to bring back Miles easier on the administrations part.
Regardless, it should have been done last year, but the power-to-be were spineless, at best.
If you have enough cause to fire a coach 4 games into the year, you had enough cause last year. Not a good look and not good for the kids.
Regardless, it should have been done last year, but the power-to-be were spineless, at best.
If you have enough cause to fire a coach 4 games into the year, you had enough cause last year. Not a good look and not good for the kids.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:13 am to GumboPot
You know who could answer this question? Alleva.
I guess we can ask him when he decides to address it.
I guess we can ask him when he decides to address it.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:14 am to TLit
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There's also a rumor some people reached out to Jimbo last year and he said no.
Good point. I do remember this too.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:15 am to GumboPot
I'm not sure it was Jindal, he wouldn't be the governor that would have to ask for the funding.... but I'm not certain it was t him.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:16 am to GumboPot
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That makes total sense however Jindal and F. King apparently thought they did not have the political capital to fight that battle when Jindal and the state legislature was making budget cuts all over the state.
Lay out the timing of the payments and the source of the funds. The truth is easily defended.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:17 am to GumboPot
Alleva and King were on board with the firing. Word got back to Jindal, who threatened King with reducing LSUs budget, so King told Alleva to hold off.
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 11:19 am
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:19 am to emanresu
I think honor code chimed in too
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:19 am to Cosmo
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Allegedly pretty much true
and
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What these dumbasses fail to realize is that putting a good football product on the field is one of the best things for university and the state.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:20 am to GumboPot
OP---some of the truth but not all the truth. Aleva had leeway to hire Jimbo- he fumbled the ball and mishandled the negotiations creating a total PR nightmare for LSU- At halftime a meeting was held with board members and the decision was made to keep Les
There are other details- but the bottom line is if Aleva was out of his skill set in trying to negotiate with the best agent in football.
He does not need to be alone in the room negotiating.
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 9:21 am
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:20 am to GumboPot
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I'm just trying to understand the timeline and facts. Does that about sum it up? Please correct any information I have wrong or include any info I omitted.
While I do not know it to be true, there was another rumor I believed. There was rumor that Jimbo's agent, Slimy McCashgouger, came back the day before the aTm game and demanded another million per year.
This was the tipping point on abandoning ship from a situation that had already become such an abortion.
While it was rumor, I believe it.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:22 am to GumboPot
Squeaky wheel or something...
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