re: I honestly think Leonard Fournette can win the Heisman if we feed him enough..

Posted by cajunjj

Madison, AL

Member since May 2008

7427 posts

Posted on 1/20/15 at 9:25 am to Takeru Kobayashi

No telling how good he could be if Les let him run the ball! It is good to play many backs but in big games he should feed LF. Only 6 carry's in the Gump game. 1 Loss.

Posted by Datbayoubengal

Port City

Member since Sep 2009

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Posted on 1/20/15 at 9:49 am to PortCityTiger24

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Melvin Gordon had the 3rd most rushing yards in a single season and he wasn't a serious threat to win. We would need to be in the playoff for him to have a serious chance.

The only reason he didn't is because Mariota had a ridiculous statistical year.

3780 yards 68% 38 TDs 2 ints before the playoffs. In addition, he had 669 yards and 14 TDs at 5.7 ypc.

He was pretty near perfection in that Oregon system. Also you have to take in effect that he was on a national championship level team and they've been wanting to give him the award for two years now.

IMO Fournette will still need an insane stat line (at least 1900 rush yards and 20+ TDs in 13 games) but on a championship level team with possible wins against teams like Bama, UF, Auburn, Ole Miss, Wisconsin, TAMU and Mizzu in 2016, he has a hell of a chance to win it.

This post was edited on 1/20/15 at 9:52 am

Posted by chilge1

Baton Rouge

Member since Jan 2009

12137 posts

Posted on 1/20/15 at 9:57 am to Datbayoubengal

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Doesn't really matter. There is a long list of guys who have been successful after heavy rushing loads

I hear you. And it doesn't really matter because Fournette clearly wants to win a Heisman. You don't make it to New York rushing 10 times a game. He'll, Jeremy Hill was the best back in the country in 2013 and didn't sniff the Heisman.

But all RBs have a limited number of carries on their legs. Could be the difference between a 10 year career and 15, depending on how he gets used and how many carries,

That said...

Posted by TheDeathValley

New Orleans, LA

Member since Sep 2010

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Posted on 1/20/15 at 10:25 am to HailHailtoMichigan!

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I am so fricking tired of the same trite, boring threads on the rant.

Then go away dumbass. Your name is "Hail To the Victors" and your favorite team on the board is "Stanford" yet you are posting on the LSU SPORTS BOARD.

Go away.

Posted by Goldrush25

San Diego, CA

Member since Oct 2012

33794 posts

Posted on 1/20/15 at 10:31 am to jg8623

Does feeding him more at the expense of touches for everyone else translate into more wins? If not, then who cares about a Heisman?

If he gets it within the context of the LSU gameplan, then great. Otherwise who cares?

Posted by Tiger Ryno

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Posted on 1/20/15 at 10:33 am to Goldrush25

get your best player the ball as many times as you can against the teams that matter, in as many ways as you can.

hand it off, throw it to him, reverses, different formations, etc...

Posted by NotRight37

Nashville, TN

Member since Jul 2014

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Posted on 1/20/15 at 10:51 am to Tiger Ryno

He has the medias attention for sure, but any RB is unlikely to win. I would think his YPC would have to be over 8 and rushing yards over 2000 to get there. If he takes a few passes the distance and 2/3 KOs then maybe the rushing yards could be a bit less than above.

Posted by Choctaw

Pumpin' Sunshine

Member since Jul 2007

77774 posts

Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:25 am to 15forHeisman

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He most definitely can win it... But he will get 12 carries a game so he will not

so he's going to carry the ball less than last year?

Posted by MJM

Member since Aug 2007

2485 posts

Posted on 1/20/15 at 2:53 pm to Lakeboy7

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Oh like the tripe you throw up on the poli board?

Lol nice

Posted by timm6971463

oakdale la

Member since Mar 2008

4361 posts

Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:03 pm to jg8623

This year we had two more excellent sr backs which limited his carries 'Im hoping two more will step foreword this coming year,running any back excessîveely will give you diminishing returns NCs are much better than heismiens !

This post was edited on 1/20/15 at 3:06 pm

Posted by tke857

Member since Jan 2012

12195 posts

Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:09 pm to jg8623

not gonna happen with our RB by committee style of play. however, once he hits the NFL he will be thankful he wasnt fed the ball 25+ times a game for 3 years in college

Posted by JBeau

Member since Sep 2012

238 posts

Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:12 pm to jg8623

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Leonard Fournette can win the Heisman

Not gonna happen. Melvin Gordon didn't even come in third and he was 6 yards shy of breaking Barry Sanders' record while missing one entire game and getting pulled at halftime twice.

ETA he also broke LT's single game record in 2 1/2 quarters

This post was edited on 1/20/15 at 8:09 pm

Posted by chilge1

Baton Rouge

Member since Jan 2009

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Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:15 pm to JBeau

Gordon also broke LT's single game rushing record.

Posted by RANDY44

Member since Aug 2005

9572 posts

Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:27 pm to RBWilliams8

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Much better chance with 2 senior starters on the OL staying to help.

Hawkins is a Jr., fwiw, but your point is a good one.

Posted by Holden Caulfield

Hanging with J.D.

Member since May 2008

8308 posts

Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:30 pm to jg8623

Melvin Gordon rushed for nearly 2600 yards and didn't win the Heisman.

Leonard could win it with lesser numbers if LSU makes it to the playoffs and he's the primary reason. Or he could just have a phenomenal season like Gordon and place but not win.

Posted by sabanisarustedspoke

Member since Jan 2007

4947 posts

Posted on 1/20/15 at 4:20 pm to 12Pence

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I wouldn't risk hurting his professional career for a Heisman trophy.

The most overused and never proven philosophy of the Miles era

Posted by drdrfaulkner

Butler PA

Member since Apr 2007

757 posts

Posted on 1/20/15 at 4:39 pm to sabanisarustedspoke

What would be really interesting is to have Fournette and Brandon Harris as 1-2 in the race. Of course, I am dreaming again--I might be awake when the recurring offensive nightmare happens again...

Posted by sabanisarustedspoke

Member since Jan 2007

4947 posts

Posted on 1/20/15 at 4:46 pm to drdrfaulkner

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What would be really interesting is to have Fournette and Brandon Harris as 1-2 in the race. Of course, I am dreaming again--I might be awake when the recurring offensive nightmare happens again...

Man, you can't call the offense last year a nightmare and still be a tiger fan. It's fans like you that are ruining the football program. As a matter of fact, I am going to go ahead and say that if we do have a loss next year that you are solely responsible because of your negativity...