- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: I expect a big, big improve in Etling
Posted on 12/17/16 at 12:18 pm to semjase
Posted on 12/17/16 at 12:18 pm to semjase
There is no stat for poise. In fact i have never found an adequate definition of it. All I know is..... I know it when I see it. I see it in Etling and not in Harris. Thats the major difference in the two.
Hey Harris is in my home town football teams district. I saw him play in high school. I wanted him to be the man fron day one.
However a blind man can see the difference between the two.
Hey Harris is in my home town football teams district. I saw him play in high school. I wanted him to be the man fron day one.
However a blind man can see the difference between the two.
0
Posted on 12/17/16 at 12:34 pm to lsupride87
quote:This may be the case, but that is proof that stats aren't the end-all in judging players.
Etling compares statistically almost identically to another LSU qb......
Harris
Etling CLEARLY understands the offense a lot more than Harris. He seems to roll through the progression a lot more fluidly, he finds the checkdown receiver in a timely manner, he slides in the pocket while still looking downfield. He doesn't throw the ball on a rope downfield, and when he tries he usually throws into the dirt; but outside of that and his windup on bombs, he has the physical ability to make all the throws as needed. He has good touch on his passes.
In all of these aspects, Harris exceeds him only on the ability to throw on a rope, and to more smoothly throw the deep ball.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 1:06 pm to Datbayoubengal
quote:
I expect Etling to be replaced. LSU should have a playmaker at QB. Etling is just all kinds of average.
If Etling's accuracy is "mediocre", what is Harris's?
Harris has to make major improvements with accuracy, and Brennan coming in as a true freshman I wouldn't think will be ready to start, but Scott is a possibility, and yeah of course competition is open. particularly with an OC coming in with a new system.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 1:07 pm to Datbayoubengal
quote:
I expect Etling to be replaced.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 1:07 pm to Scoob
This thread is hilarious. Etling is a better option when compared to Harris. It doesn't by default make him good. 90% of the fan base can't be objective and that's fine most fan bases can't. But if Etling was on any other SEC team would any of you be scared to face him? Would you worry that he could beat your defense with his arm? I wouldn't be at all. And if you removed your P&G glasses, neither would you. Are any of you impressed with Austin Appleby at Florida?
Etling was bad against Jacksonville St. He was worse against Auburn. In the 4th year of his college career he looked like a true freshman vs Bama and didn't eclipse 100 yards passing. In 2 of his "great games" LSU set a single game rushing record in both! Think about that. In another Guice had 250 while Fournette had over 100.
But we just need a game manager like Matt Mauck! Explain to me how a game manager sets a single season passing TD record. This will be Etling's 5th year as a college QB and he's about to learn an entirely new offense. Expecting him to make some great improvement is asinine
I've also seen ITT well stats don't show qualities like poise and awareness. Know what else they don't show? How many times Etling checks the ball down on 3rd and long far too early guaranteeing LSU won't convert. Remove your feelings and fandom and make a rational observation. It isn't hard TL;DR if Etling was on any other team none of you would think he's good
Etling was bad against Jacksonville St. He was worse against Auburn. In the 4th year of his college career he looked like a true freshman vs Bama and didn't eclipse 100 yards passing. In 2 of his "great games" LSU set a single game rushing record in both! Think about that. In another Guice had 250 while Fournette had over 100.
But we just need a game manager like Matt Mauck! Explain to me how a game manager sets a single season passing TD record. This will be Etling's 5th year as a college QB and he's about to learn an entirely new offense. Expecting him to make some great improvement is asinine
I've also seen ITT well stats don't show qualities like poise and awareness. Know what else they don't show? How many times Etling checks the ball down on 3rd and long far too early guaranteeing LSU won't convert. Remove your feelings and fandom and make a rational observation. It isn't hard TL;DR if Etling was on any other team none of you would think he's good
Posted on 12/17/16 at 1:24 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
I agree with the fact that etling can improve for next year but Flynn may have struggled in the small appearances early in his career until the Peach Bowl in 2005 against Miami. He was excellent in that game.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:22 pm to ATL-TIGER-732
quote:
Agreed!
I also do not understand why some people fault Etling for having the same shortcomings as an NFL Hall of Fame quality quarterback.
"McCoy knows (Peyton) Manning’s limitations as a passer, including his underwhelming arm strength, velocity and touch on vertical throws."
I watched Peyton for years and all he did was WIN
Was Mannings arm strength a question his Sr. Year @ Tennessee ? DE is a VERY avg QB. At some point in the season, QB play will have to carry you. He's not that kind of guy. But yes, he has plenty of room to improve.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:46 pm to tigerpawl
quote:
from which to launch from.
You were close. You were very close. I can appreciate the effort, though.
I agree you. Etling will look better next year.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 6:02 pm to prepsportsallday
quote:
Was Mannings arm strength a question his Sr. Year @ Tennessee ?
Do you think Manning's arm strength got worse as he matured?
Aren't all football fields 100 yards long?
Posted on 12/17/16 at 6:08 pm to lsupride87
Only a frickin blind man couldn't see that Etling is a better QB than Harris
Posted on 12/17/16 at 6:08 pm to Upslope
The critique comes from his lack of production, the missed wide open layups, and awful deep ball.
He needs to improve for us to be a good team.
He needs to improve for us to be a good team.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 6:26 pm to Tigerdev
Do any of you guys know what a parabola is? Well, DE has made a parabolic improvement since he's arrived at LSU! Deal with it!
Posted on 12/17/16 at 6:28 pm to Phil2012
Deal with what?
Posted on 12/17/16 at 6:29 pm to Tigerdev
A fool doesn't know what he doesn't know! Fool!
Posted on 12/17/16 at 10:48 pm to the_watcher
quote:
But if Etling was on any other SEC team would any of you be scared to face him? Would you worry that he could beat your defense with his arm? I wouldn't be at all.
Amen
quote:
In the 4th year of his college career he looked like a true freshman vs Bama and didn't eclipse 100 yards passing.
Amen Amen!
quote:
In 2 of his "great games" LSU set a single game rushing record in both! Think about that.
AMEN AMEN AMEN!
quote:
Remove your feelings and fandom and make a rational observation. It isn't hard TL;DR if Etling was on any other team none of you would think he's good
AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN!!
-----------------------
To add to your comments, its not just LSU in its failure to develop QBs. Its a SEC (League-wide) issue. Except for Ole Miss and Miss. St. (Bama to an extent), QB play in this league has been under-whelming in the last few years. Fans in the deep south have become so accustom to seeing mediocre QB play, and so enamoured with the rushing attack, QB expectations is very low. We have become infatuated with the "game manager". There is nothing special about a game manager. And yes, a "game manager" WILL ALWAYS HAVE LOTS OF ROOM TO IMPROVE.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 1:56 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
quote:He had pretty good games vs Canes, VT, and MTSU prior to that.
People forget that Flynn was nothing special until about halfway through his senior year when the light came on.
quote:See above. I doubt he had more than 35-40 attempts prior to 200yd/2TD Peach.
Learning to play qb takes game experience.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 2:03 am to LuzianaFootball
quote:
What do people think they're going to see improve next year?
Uh, because he will be more experienced. We have an OC who will develop a QB. plus Etling makes good decisions.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 3:51 am to ATL-TIGER-732
quote:
Agreed!
I also do not understand why some people fault Etling
This all stems from all the Crap people said about him before he ever took a snap at LSU. Now they dont want to change their story.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:48 am to prepsportsallday
quote:
In the 4th year of his college career he looked like a true freshman vs Bama and didn't eclipse 100 yards passing
Etling looked like a freshman because he had zero time to throw.
The throw to Chark was great, but it was one of only a few opportunities he had to actually throw downfield. I do agree that he should have been more effective in his short passes though.
But his success in that game relied completely on the running game and pass protection which failed miserably.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:01 pm to McCaigBro69
quote:
I expect a big, big improve in Etling
quote:
In the 4th year of his college career he looked like a true freshman vs Bama and didn't eclipse 100 yards passing
Etling looked like a freshman because he had zero time to throw.
The throw to Chark was great, but it was one of only a few opportunities he had to actually throw downfield. I do agree that he should have been more effective in his short passes though.
But his success in that game relied completely on the running game and pass protection which failed miserably.
You missed me with this. These are the type of games that I measure talent. When protection breaks down. I judge a QB by how well he handles performing in the midst of chaos. Etling tripped over his own feet, and was slow footed when trying to evade the rush. Its not about performing well when everybody around is doing great. Its about "what does adversity bring out of you."
Page 4 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News