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re: I am with LES on this....

Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:06 pm to
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:06 pm to
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I am sorry...but what are we going to need Harris for?...he cannot play to a high enough level...cannot throw the ball with touch...does not have the mental components to make defensive reads and adjustments....etc....get McMillan or Scott up to speed....at least McMillan showed touch on his only pass....Harris to scout team...then transfer....no upside potential here



This is so fricking retarded. He has shown flashes--albeit very briefly--of brilliance. He balled hard in two games his true freshman year. Had a couple of good games last year. With the online play against Wisconsin, he actually wasn't as terrible as it seemed. Make no mistake, he was not good, but he wasn't as terrible as he was ridiculed for being. He was hot garbage last week and deserved to be benched. But if they can get him to mature--to light a fire under his arse to compete instead of sulk--and design an offense that has him thinking less and just getting it in the shotgun and winging it--he may can regain his confidence and ball out again. He just needs to drop his balls, find that dog inside him, and compete his arse off.

At this point, I wouldn't bench Etling unless he gets hurt or really shits the bed. But Harris has the best arm and best wheels on the team at QB. He can be a weapon if he can get over the mental hump. But if you would rather McMillan or Scott this year to sub for Etling, you're fricking retarded.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:09 pm to
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I don't think anyone is hating on the kid.


Are you serious?
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:11 pm to
Yes - we need all the QBs on the team ready to play to the best of their ability. But what we don't need is a repeat of the QB drama from 2011.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:12 pm to
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Stop being a dick to BH


Either execute and produce or sit the bench.

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He is a good kid.


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Every player goes through a slump


it's going on 3 seasons now... it's not a slump, it's just who he is.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18687 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:17 pm to
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I think we will need both before it's over. Similar to how Jamarcus and Randall both had their games in 04. We don't 9 regular seasons games with only one of them that year.
Ex: Russell saves Oregon state, Randall saves UF


Great analogy as it shows that these issues at LSU aren't unique to Miles. As frustrating as it can be to watch, QB development is just not a perfect science. Harris really looking promising in relief during his Freshman season. Now he seems to be confused and troubled.
Posted by skullopener
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
2182 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:19 pm to
I wouldn't want to pass a judgement on that one video similar to you not giving him a benefit of doubt for this LINK
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 11:22 pm
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:22 pm to
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Either execute and produce or sit the bench.


Yes, he should sit on the bench. And he is. But why hate on him?

And yes, he ran off the field earlier. I would imagine it was that he was disappointed in himself and thinking he may have blown a tremendous opportunity rather than he was upset Etling played well and we won. He may be immature, but I don't think he's an a-hole.

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it's going on 3 seasons now..


He played in like 3 games his true freshman year. Two were awesome, one was terrible. He had a mediocre season last year. He has stunk it up this year, no doubt, but he's played a season and 5 games, hardly "3 seasons."

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it's not a slump, it's just who he is


That very well may be. But what do you gain from shitting on him? I see absolutely nothing positive from it.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42051 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:29 pm to
Why can't we just want better QB play???

I couldn't give two shits who's sucking, I'd just like another option when it ain't working.

Harris ain't getting it done
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:35 pm to
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Why can't we just want better QB play???



Of course you can. We all do. But Harris shouldn't be getting "kill yourself" posts on social media.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:39 pm to
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Of course you can. We all do. But Harris shouldn't be getting "kill yourself" posts on social media


He absolutely should not. These idiots are a part of every fanbase though, and I'd hope coaches or mentors in his life have prepared him mentally for this as it comes with the territory of big time football.

Can't be the hero without the risk of being the villain as well.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36905 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:44 pm to
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I am however disappointed in the way Harris handled himself post game


I'm glad I never made a mistake when I was only 20.

People need to move on.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18504 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:52 pm to
I'm with Les on this...Brandon Harris can't handle the full play book
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18687 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:08 am to
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I'm with Les on this...Brandon Harris can't handle the full play book



It's hard to say when you never get to deeper plays due to 3 `n outs.
Posted by Waterboy1972
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
1132 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:21 am to
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I am with LES on this....


See that's the difference. I've been DONE WITH LES for some time now, and his pretending to know anything about QB evaluations is like white noise. Face it, BH, AJ, JJ JL, AH, RP, and even RS had been recruited and given that opportunity. I truly wish BH well, but Miles has ruined him.
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 12:22 am
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18687 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:26 am to
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RP


Please explain what was wrong with him from a football standpoint.

Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:27 am to
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I'm glad I never made a mistake when I was only 20.

People need to move on

As have I. Its ok to make a mistake, and its ok to be called out for it when you do.
I hope he learns from it and ends up better for it
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 12:28 am
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
5076 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:35 am to
Why is it on the fans to make Harris "feel good about himself?" That's entirely up to him
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29267 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:45 am to
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But why hate on him?



I don't hate brandon harris. why is any criticism seen as "hate"?

I was a huge proponent of harris and defended him against criticism since he got to LSU. He just doesnt have it when it comes to accuracy, mechanics, footwork, information processing and timing. so much time and coaching has gone to harris but it seems like it's just not sticking.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:45 am to
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No matter what the shortcomings, we need both QB's
And you base this off of what?
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22790 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:45 am to
I am not hating on BH but I would have him at 3rd string. Etling 1, McMillian 2! Both have showed done better in games that BH has.

If neither of them can get it done then bring in BH! His play last year and this season is beyond a SLUMP! Maybe it is him... maybe it is the offense we run. Either way it doesn't matter.

I no longer trust our coaches to play the best QB after what I have seen the last few years.

BH MIGHT be better in practice but last time I checked practice points do not count on Saturdays.

Beckwith sat the bench much of last year. Were the coaches right making that decision? Point is they have been wrong before and all game time evidence suggest that they are wrong again.
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