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re: How To Stop Fournette From Breaking A Game Open, By SEC Officials
Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:58 am to GeauxTigerTM
Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:58 am to GeauxTigerTM
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Like I said...well after the play started. Clapp kinda hooks the DL who then goes to the ground. I can certainly see why the U threw that one, even if Clapp didn't grasp him.
Agreed. My "before the snap" was wrong.
Either way, still a quick call for something that was not clear at all. Not to mention the U that throws the flag has to see through many bodies to call that one. That was the R's call.
After watching Key and other LSU Dlineman being tackled all night, I found this play rather curious.
I still think it was total BS and the timing of the flag was curious, at best.
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:02 am to dgnx6
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who is even holding on that play?
Clapp...64.
You see the take down that occurs in the backfield as Fournette goes by to the right? The U called Clapp for holding there.
The flag doesn't come out until both p[layers hit the ground.
Did Clapp hold? Dunno...but you can certainly see how the U could interpret the fact that the DL hit the ground like that with Clapp there as a hold. It's not like Clapp turned him upright and pancaked him...
Not before the snap and not some wild call.
Of all the calls that are legit to complain about from Saturday, and they are legion, this really isn't one of them as far as I can see.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:04 am to GeauxTigerTM
The only reason that one makes me mad is that the refs didn't call the 15 times Florida did something WORSE than that to our D. Their arms were on the outside of our guys all night.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:07 am to Crumble
I have to say it was close. The ref could have beaten Johnny Ringo in a duel he pulled that flag out so quick. You know we get away with holding at time I know that. But if you go back and are curious about fairness and watch the play of the lines you'll see some are not called.
But another angle, and only if there is any underhanded officiating towards LSU or any other SEC team whose name doesn't start with an A, is keep the score close and throw a flag on first possession to put them 1 and long inside their 10.
But another angle, and only if there is any underhanded officiating towards LSU or any other SEC team whose name doesn't start with an A, is keep the score close and throw a flag on first possession to put them 1 and long inside their 10.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:13 am to EZE Tiger Fan
It was very early and the official wasn't in position to make that call. I assumed the UF staff got into his ear about #64 holding and he was looking for it.
Terribly officiated game. Missed calls on both sides of the ball. LF moved before the snap on his first TD run.
Couple of key missed holding calls allowed UF to stay in the game.
Terribly officiated game. Missed calls on both sides of the ball. LF moved before the snap on his first TD run.
Couple of key missed holding calls allowed UF to stay in the game.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:13 am to GeauxTigerTM
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The flag doesn't come out until both
There must be a technique to hold and get away with it. I think Bama for example gets away with holding because they let go when they are satisfied their man is out of the play. Kind of like hold and release. By the time they release the refs may feel like he has justification not to call a hold because they didn't mean it. Really holding at the impact does slow the D player long enough for the back to get through the line.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:14 am to BigEdLSU
gotta take that shite straight up all the time. gambling mistake 101
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:14 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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In real time, on the first play of the second half, you see a flag come in from the Umpire or Back Judge before the ball is snapped. If you are familiar with football and officiating, right off the bat you are thinking "false start or illegal formation" since the flag came in before the ball was snapped.
I found this odd as well. The flag came from the back judge for holding immediately after the ball was snapped. I was pretty confused about it.
The flag literally came from the secondary.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:16 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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Agreed. My "before the snap" was wrong.
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After watching Key and other LSU Dlineman being tackled all night, I found this play rather curious.
If Key isn't being held on a play, it's because he's on the sideline. I don;t think I've ever seen an LSU defensive player held as often as Arden has been in 6 games.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:17 am to EZE Tiger Fan
In the stadium, they showed this replay and it looked like a bad call. I didn't notice it being super early.
I'd like to see the video of this one again.
I'd like to see the video of this one again.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:22 am to moneyg
U guys thank that is bad wait until we play Bama at home!!! 
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:23 am to moneyg
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In the stadium, they showed this replay and it looked like a bad call. I didn't notice it being super early.
I'd like to see the video of this one again.
Clapp was very upset with the call. Usually Olinemen know when they've done something wrong and for him to be that pissed I have a feeling it was a bullshite call.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:24 am to Crumble
Wow. OP, I hope you're watching. Pretty much disproves everything you said as if you completely made it up.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:24 am to 1badboy
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U guys thank that is bad wait until we play Bama at home!!!
If I see Ritter pregame, I'm getting in my car and driving back to Baton Rouge. Maybe I can get that info before I walk into the stadium so I can sell my tickets.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:30 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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Watch the replay. It was so blatant that you literally have to laugh.
What makes me laugh is how blatantly incorrect this is.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:32 am to Nix to Twillie
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Wow. OP, I hope you're watching.
I already admitted my "before the snap" statement was wrong.
I stand by my other observations.
No way that Umpire saw that this fast from that angle. The way the play develops in front of him, he would have to see through bodies to make that call. That was the U and R BEHIND the offensive LOS call to make there.
He is pulling his flag out and throwing it right after the snap. No way he could have seen/known that was coming. No way.
If he was able to "see" that, surely he saw the dozens of holds on UF. LSU was robbed of three or four dead-to-rights sacks Saturday night due to blatant holding or tackling the lineman. He missed those as well as numerous Facemask penalties, but he "saw" that this fast? LOL. No.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:39 am to EZE Tiger Fan
Solid thread dude. Just quit trying lol. It was not even a quick holding call. I'm not even going to watch as to whether it was holding or not bc calls get missed every game. You were completely wrong so just quit
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:40 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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missed several obvious facemasks
This is the most egregious. LF's punch a few carries later is because the UF LB was grabbing his mask, again. Later in the game after another gang tackle they let go on for waaay too long, you see LF barking at the official and grabbing his facemask. He was getting pissed.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:46 am to EZE Tiger Fan
quote:Wrong again. Both players are getting up off the ground when he throws the flag.
He is pulling his flag out and throwing it right after the snap
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:48 am to sec13rowBBseat28
Agreed, there were a few head scratchers in the game but this isn't one of them for me. Flag was thrown after the action that prompted the flag, and from that ref's viewpoint I can see why he thought it was holding.
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