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re: How does Cam Cameron get a pass in this debacle?

Posted on 11/16/14 at 8:05 pm to
Posted by SmackDaniels
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 8:05 pm to
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(b) he is letting Miles make those choices and tarnish his (Cameron's) career.


In my wildest dreams I could not fathom this.

CC can get a job just about anywhere.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 8:06 pm to
He doesn't.

If he is calling the plays, he's doing a terrible, terrible job.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 8:06 pm to
Cam is calling the plays.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 8:07 pm to
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He can do well with SPECTACULAR RECEIVER AND QB PLAY...but it all depends on beating one on one matchups. That is the only reason we had any success last year
Not sure if serious.
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This year we cant hide any of our deficiencies and that is what a good OC does.
No one could hide AJ.
Posted by Roux-Roux
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 8:07 pm to
"Death Valley....where our very own offensive coordinators dreams come to die"
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 8:17 pm to
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Not sure if serious
Certainly I am serious. In our record setting year, we threw it to 2 receivers. I would be 25% of completions wouldn't have been completed without the combination of raw talent we had last year.

Ok philosophy for the NFL

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No one could hide AJ.
Brandon Allen is a probably a worse QB (it is debateable) and had open H backs to throw to. We have Dural pinned to the sideline. Or run a three yard out needing 7.

Of course our OL couldn't hold a block long enough to get a receiver 7 yards down field, so I don't know that it mattered.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 8:28 pm to
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Certainly I am serious. In our record setting year, we threw it to 2 receivers
And ran all over the field.
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Brandon Allen is a probably a worse QB (it is debateable) and had open H backs to throw to. We have Dural pinned to the sideline. Or run a three yard out needing 7. Of course our OL couldn't hold a block long enough to get a receiver 7 yards down field, so I don't know that it mattered.
I've seen anyone in the SEC look as bad as AJ. He missed throws you could make.
Posted by CWilken21
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Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 8:48 pm to
5 offensive players who started in NFL today could still be playing at LSU (Hill, Blue, Landry, Beckham, Turner).
Posted by s_i5
Earth
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:06 pm to

Offense has been a problem since Matt Flynn left...which was the last of Jimbo's QB's. Mett was good as a senior, but passing game just sucks unless you luck into a good, experienced pocket passer. Doesn't seem to matter who you plug in at OC.

Cam is old school, but I just can't believe Cam wants "duel-threat" OBs trying to run an old school offense. That's Miles. What is he thinking by doing this? Hell nobody knows.
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:42 pm to
This is true only if you can prove Miles doesn't interfere at all with the offense and QB development is directly related to the type of offense and game plans generally decided by the head coach
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:51 pm to
I firmly believe if cameron said to play harris he would play

Harris has an issue with cameron, not miles

Miles saying jennings gives us the best chance to win I believe that came straight from Cameron's mouth to miles headset
Posted by Radman64
Bradenton
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:59 pm to
would agree with that assessment...miles trusts CC because they coached together at Michigan and CC introduced Miles to his wife....long time association built on mutual trust
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 11:59 pm
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10919 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:02 am to
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I think cam needs to bring it down a notch with his super complex scheme.
Hey, here's a novel idea. How about recruiting mentally astute QB's that CAN learn and run Cam's super complex scheme.

Shea Patterson, come on down in 2016!

What happens in 2015? There's not enough evidence or guarantee that Brandon Harris will be the second coming of Jamesis Winston. And if he's not, L.S.U. will be in deep trouble next season from a W-L perspective, including being in deep trouble from a fan support point of view. Nobody is going to put up with another "Dysfunctional QB-1950 Offense" season. Tiger Stadium will be empty if it materializes again next year.
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
87439 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:03 am to
Cameron sees harris everyday
He knows what harris can and can't do

I think harris start at auburn was all miles and Cameron took control of QB playing time after that debacle
Posted by Barry Badrinath
MISS'IPPI
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:05 am to
I agree Cam needs criticism, but you mean to honestly tell me this is what an ex-NFL head coach and ex-NFL OC who has had success in the NFL trots out as a game plan? It looked like the same game plan lsu used January 9th and Cam was coaching in the NFL during that time. History should teach us something.

If any NFL offense had 123 total yards in a whole game, that would probably be some sort of record in today's age of football.
Posted by BEATIGER
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:04 am to
Ok. If Cam IS the problem, what then??

How does Miles make a change when it's an old buddy he needs to move out.

If problem is Miles-meddling, then expect to see Cam move on after season is over.
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
18023 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:09 am to
Cam isn't the problem with the offense. The players aren't the problem with the offense.
Posted by BCS Statmaster
Member since Jan 2007
1552 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:24 am to
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How does Les Miles get a pass in this debacle


FIFY
Posted by LSUNV
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:38 am to
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I firmly believe if cameron said to play harris he would play


Then why is it in every press conference when asked about Harris Cam makes Harris out to be the future of LSU not Jennings. History shows that Miles is suspect 1
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 8:39 am
Posted by LSU Shreddin
Denver
Member since Feb 2009
1426 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:01 am to
I have no idea the real root of the evil, but lets say that Miles has told Cameron that Jennings is the QB no matter what. In that case, I can't place much blame on Cam. I'm not sure what plays you call to be successful.

Jennings can't read a defense, so it limits what you can do. There is no way he checks to a 2nd WR, in fact, I'm not even sure why we use multiple WR sets.

Having said that, he is certainly to blame for QB development.
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