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re: How Did We Get Here?
Posted on 11/20/16 at 3:33 pm to Katy Tiger
Posted on 11/20/16 at 3:33 pm to Katy Tiger
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STs coached by an idiot who ought to be manning the sporting goods counter at Walmart.
Or smoking a mean brisket in a TX roadside joint.
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Posted on 11/20/16 at 3:48 pm to Lsu101205
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Its pretty simple. Bad offensive scheme, and no QB/QB development.
qb and OL. our scheme needs tweaking but miles got lazy and decided he would only let them run vanilla running plays. lastly, and this is the MOST important. crappy coaching on the offense side of the ball. crappy qb coaching, crappy ol coaching and crappy wr coaching.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 4:00 pm to lsualum96
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You may ask yourself: How Did We Get Here?
I'll ask David Byrne.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 4:04 pm to lsualum96
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How Did We Get Here?
Ryan fricking Perrilloux
Posted on 11/20/16 at 4:07 pm to DmitriKaramazov
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Second, the SEC strengthened: Saban turned Bama into a juggernaut, traditionally mediocre programs (e.g. Ole Miss) improved, teams across the league hired better coaches and were less tolerant of failure.
While this may be true, the SEC is downright dreadful this season (compared to some recent years).
Posted on 11/20/16 at 4:35 pm to lsualum96
Other programs rising while We stayed stagnant
Posted on 11/20/16 at 5:22 pm to DmitriKaramazov
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My theory: college football changed dramatically between 2007 and 2016. First and foremost, various iterations of the spread revolutionized offense and fundamentally altered the way championships could be won. Second, the SEC strengthened: Saban turned Bama into a juggernaut, traditionally mediocre programs (e.g. Ole Miss) improved, teams across the league hired better coaches and were less tolerant of failure. Third, on a national level, as revenues grew, schools invested ever increasing sums into glittering facilities, staffs, recruiting, and their programs generally. All of college football improved.
While these paradigmatic changes were occurring, LSU stood pat, burdened with a prideful coach who was either unwilling or unable to adapt to the changing times. We persisted in an antiquated, predictable offensive scheme and recruited players which fit that scheme. Worse, our D and O line recruiting dropped off. Now we've fallen behind, albeit only by a small margin. We still have talent, but it is no longer deployed in an optimal scheme.
Such a succinct post I decide to quote it in its entirety.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 5:25 pm to lsualum96
I just want to say to everybody here that this is a great discussion about the program.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 5:30 pm to LSUwag
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I just want to say to everybody here that this is a great discussion about the program.
Watch it get anchored.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 5:30 pm to LSUwag
OMG, this right here:
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Miles was more interested in being right than winning. Miles was more interested in hiring buddies than hiring top people. Miles showed that he wasn't going to change.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 5:50 pm to lsualum96
In 2011 we played dominant football 45-60 minutes per game, almost every game through 13-0.
Since then we haven't played that kind of football at all. We play sloppy, mistake-prone football period.
Since then we haven't played that kind of football at all. We play sloppy, mistake-prone football period.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 6:01 pm to lsualum96
If you have to ask, you were probably a Miles supporter and ignored his very obvious and numerous deficiencies.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 6:17 pm to apfour21
I've said many times that Les Miles reminds me of Bobby Bowden. He was never a great coach but, a very good person. He surrounded himself with very good coaches and it evolved into him hiring his friends. By the end, none of them really cared about the program but, they all made a lot of money.
Maybe Jimbo will be the guy to rebuild both programs.
ETA: I requested a sticky so we can have a consolidated discussion about this important topic.
Maybe Jimbo will be the guy to rebuild both programs.
ETA: I requested a sticky so we can have a consolidated discussion about this important topic.
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 11/20/16 at 6:21 pm to LSUwag
See I used to think Miles was a good guy but I don't feel that way anymore. He gave us all a big middle finger by basically saying "I'm right and you're all wrong and I'm gonna show you" when he clearly wasn't. He screwed us for years cause he refused to accept that his way may not be the best way. I refuse to believe that someone who was in football too long was too ignorant to see what had to be done so it is either arrogance or stubbornness or maybe a bit of both.
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 11/20/16 at 6:32 pm to duboisd
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duboisd
Fans like you are part of the problem. Why settle?
Posted on 11/20/16 at 6:45 pm to burke985
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Miles effect
Someone posted this earlier but he got slammed. It's hurting people's feelings to say that. Those same people are saying that anyone who says this is acting like snowflakes from the election of Trump. But they are just trying to take up for anything that stops major changes from taking place. We need a completely new offensive thought at LSU. COMPLETELY.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 6:58 pm to lsualum96
I believe if you go back & look at Mack Brown as a template, the similarities are remarkable. They both over stayed their time, refused to change or even think about it, had great talent from top rated (top 10 or better). They bacasically rode on the ability of excellent talent.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 7:23 pm to Jmwtigre
16 year run OVER it was due
Posted on 11/20/16 at 7:33 pm to Icansee4miles
I just don't see how it is settling. I don't know why y'all think everyone is going to line up for this job. Saban, Urban, Harbaugh, they aren't coming. Fisher is not the god everyone makes him out to be. Orgeron plus a good OC is better in the long run.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 7:37 pm to duboisd
I agree keep O and get Good OC and ride as long as we can
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