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re: How can OSU put 3 QBs...

Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by goatman1419
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:30 pm to
So he gets zero credit for two years with one and three with the other....ok guy whatevery you say. Again please stop please.
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:31 pm to
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Posted by harry coleman beast
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by goatman1419
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:33 pm to
The original statement you are arguing is all about the big ten.......why would you compare what he did in the sec??????

My god kid really
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:35 pm to
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So he gets zero credit for two years with one and three with the other....ok guy whatevery you say. Again please stop please.


Who has a better track record of developing HS QB talent, Miles or Fisher? Be honest. Fisher gets the credit for JR and Flynn's success in college. Miles has yet to recruit a successful HS QB, you might want to wait til he does that to try and argue that he gets credit for JR and Flynn.
Posted by goatman1419
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:36 pm to
And it does count which in fact he hasn't won anything except easiest schedule in the country for consecutive years. Jesus man do I have to say everything twice?? You have bombed this thread with total dumb statements
Posted by goatman1419
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:37 pm to
You said mikes could not DEVELOP QBs. Did you not?????
Posted by goatman1419
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:38 pm to
So you are now saying that JR spending two of his three years in miles systwm and flynn being in it 4 of his 5 years doesn't count???? And again I never said miles had anything to do with their recruitment just the development.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:38 pm to
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How can OSU put 3 QBs...


quote:

The original statement you are arguing is all about the big ten.......why would you compare what he did in the sec??????


Because he has proven to be able to develop QB's in both conferences. He is a better evaluator and developer of QB talent than Miles. He puts his QB's in a better position to be successful when compared to Miles in either conference. End of story Meyer>>Miles especially when it comes to QB play regardless of conference. /thread
Posted by TeamLSU
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:40 pm to
Miles DID recruit Ryan P. Miles is the REASON Ryan signed with LSU. If Saban would have stayed at LSU, Ryan P would have kept his commitment to Texas.

The irony of all that is Colt McCoy was going to sign with LSU and Saban. Once Saban bolted, Les immediately went after Ryan P. and Colt switched to Texas.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:46 pm to
Has anyone watched Gunner Kiel today?

Does anyone think Miles would have allowed him to develop into that type of QB?


Posted by goatman1419
Prairieville,LA
Member since Jan 2007
3070 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:04 pm to
Big ten......2 teams in top 25 playoff rankings.....so right what a tough conference
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:08 pm to
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Big ten......2 teams in top 25 playoff rankings.....so right what a tough conference


6 teams in the top 20 for total defense.
Posted by FearTheValley
New Jersey
Member since Jan 2013
194 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:09 pm to
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11-18 for 250........I'd say that's close to a world beater......but you know I'd say the top 5 defenses in the SEC might just might be a little bit better than them. Just maybe


Actually, those are the ULM game stats you're citing (you were replying to something about New Mexico St.). Against NMSt., AJ was 2-5 for 11 yards with 2 INTs.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4745 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:10 pm to
Jeez. So now, not only does Miles not develop them, he won't allow them to develop.

All I can say is this. Qb play has been bad this year. Since Miles has been so poor at developing his QB, I am just glad he has done a great job developing the running backs, defensive line, linebackers. Miles has also shown himself to be a premium DB developer as well. He's not doing bad with the receivers this year too, even though they haven't been thrown to that much.
Posted by tiger in the gump
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:13 pm to
Ppl must've not paid attention to last year or something
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:20 pm to
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Ppl must've not paid attention to last year or something



Oh, people did

The problem is LSU doesn't have a system under Les Miles. They have some fuzzy philosophy about ball control, grinding it out, passing when necessary and keeping the game close so they can win in the 4th.

Other teams have a system where they recruit players specifically for their offensive scheme. Miles recruits stud and tries to make this fuzzy philosophy work with QB's better suited for something else.

The only reason Mett passed for 3,000 yards last year is because he had to, the defense wasn't that great. He was a stud QB, we need more like him. There isn't a QB recruited under Miles since 2006 besides Mett who can be effective in this offense and light it up when it's necessary.

We need a system that carries over from year to year, plug and play. Miles never has had one at LSU
Posted by SwampyLSU
Member since Aug 2014
1605 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:24 pm to
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Because we have whiffed on QB recruiting far too often.


its NOT just recruiting jeez its about the system. Im 100% positive you could throw Harris or even Jennings in Meyer's system and they would do amazing.

Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
5416 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:25 pm to
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Posted by TeamLSU
Miles DID recruit Ryan P. Miles is the REASON Ryan signed with LSU. If Saban would have stayed at LSU, Ryan P would have kept his commitment to Texas.

The irony of all that is Colt McCoy was going to sign with LSU and Saban. Once Saban bolted, Les immediately went after Ryan P. and Colt switched to Texas.



Colt McCoy was never going to go to LSU. I'm not sure we even recruited him. Where did this runor start?
Posted by Blanky6715
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2014
4377 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:31 pm to
They play crap defenses
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