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How about, at a minimum, a true QB coach
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:57 am
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:57 am
I really don't think Les lets anybody go, but if the staff could be rearranged a bit to allow a proven QB coach to come in, it'd be damn helpful.
I have seen where plays Cam has drawn up are great IF the QB executes.
I haven't given up on BH either. He needs guidance.
I have seen where plays Cam has drawn up are great IF the QB executes.
I haven't given up on BH either. He needs guidance.
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:58 am to CharlesLSU
A true quarterback coach? So Cam fricking Cameron isn't good enough with quarterbacks? Who do you suggest we get? Is Norm Chow available? Who coaches the Packers' qbs? We need a good player, not a coach.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:11 am to CharlesLSU
first of all, we had a qb and wr coach recently (I forget the guy's name, but he came from UF)
and, later, cam was touted to be a qb developer
....the talk about hiring a new OC or QB coach is exhausting. It's already been done...several times. There have also been different players, which is why none of this is harris' fault. The one constant in the equation is CLM. I'm NOT saying you fire the guy averaging 10 wins per year. But let's be honest for a second and use some common sense.
and, later, cam was touted to be a qb developer
....the talk about hiring a new OC or QB coach is exhausting. It's already been done...several times. There have also been different players, which is why none of this is harris' fault. The one constant in the equation is CLM. I'm NOT saying you fire the guy averaging 10 wins per year. But let's be honest for a second and use some common sense.
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 9:13 am
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:13 am to therick711
We have no QB period. I thought Harris would be a lot better but instead he has gotten worse. Franks has gone to Fla. so who will play qb this coming year?
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:15 am to 1badboy
quote:I wish I could down vote an unlimited amount of times
We have no QB period. I thought Harris would be a lot better but instead he has gotten worse. Franks has gone to Fla. so who will play qb this coming year?
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:17 am to CharlesLSU
Honestly, (it doesn't show) but Cam is thought to be one of the best QB coaches in the game today.
The offense just isn't QB friendly.
The offense just isn't QB friendly.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:20 am to therick711
Yes, Norm Chow is very available. He was head coach and just fired 4 weeks by the University of Hawaii the day after getting destroyed by Air Force at home.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:21 am to Kirby4life
He's basically the only guy with a resume with quarterbacks that is available better than Cam.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:26 am to SportTiger1
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The offense just isn't QB friendly
The play calling may be bad and predictive, but there are still open receivers that BH misses. Whether it is development or coaching or a confidence thing the BH we saw Saturday is not the same guy against Florida early in the year. He missed open receivers. The player has to get some of the blame.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:28 am to 1badboy
hopefully a dark horse that's unknown.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:28 am to SportTiger1
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Honestly, (it doesn't show) but Cam is thought to be one of the best QB coaches in the game today.
The offense just isn't QB friendly.
So, our OC is a great QB coach but his offense isn't QB-friendly. Sounds about right. Certainly jives with the product on the field.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:31 am to CharlesLSU
quote:
I really don't think Les lets anybody go, but if the staff could be rearranged a bit to allow a proven QB coach to come in, it'd be damn helpful.
He'd have to let somebody go to bring in a QB coach. The number of assistant coaches is capped, and currently all spots are filled.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:31 am to mostbesttigerfanever
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We have no QB period. I thought Harris would be a lot better but instead he has gotten worse. Franks has gone to Fla. so who will play qb this coming year?
I wish I could down vote an unlimited amount of times
Why, because he's telling the truth?
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:32 am to High C
quote:no b/c he's wrong. We've gotten really good QB recruits over the last several years...and new OCs. It's a matter of development; not the player himself
Why, because he's telling the truth?
Posted on 11/30/15 at 11:02 am to SportTiger1
quote:I could agree if it were just timing routes.
The offense just isn't QB friendly.
How friendly does it have to be to hit curls and hitches?
I seriously hope Miles isn't bending to outside pressure as I don't see any marked pass improvement over 2014.
I normally trust staff evaluation, but in hindsight it might have been better to further develop Jennings (and Harris), than keep this 1st year starter merry-go-round going.
There's Ertling/Mcmillan chatter starting already.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 11:32 am to CharlesLSU
If we bring anybody in then somebody on the staff has to go. Max # of coaches already. I like what some have suggested. Fire the TE coach, bring in a QB coach with no other responsibilities.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 11:39 am to mostbesttigerfanever
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We've gotten really good QB recruits over the last several years...and new OCs. It's a matter of development; not the player himself
So, we've gotten good recruits and new OCs - no improvement. What is the real issue, then? Where do the shortcomings lie?
Posted on 11/30/15 at 11:47 am to mostbesttigerfanever
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first of all, we had a qb and wr coach recently (I forget the guy's name, but he came from UF)
you're talking about Billy Gonzales, and he was only WR coach. I think he had "passing game coordinator" in his title, but he was never the QB coach. Crowton was.
Kragthorpe was a dedicated QB coach the couple years he was actually on staff (and after his diagnosis).
Posted on 11/30/15 at 1:01 pm to Croozin2
quote:like I've already stated, I'm not saying that Miles needs to be canned today...but to your point, there is but one constant over the last several years, and it isn't the QB and it isn't the OC
So, we've gotten good recruits and new OCs - no improvement. What is the real issue, then? Where do the shortcomings lie?
Posted on 11/30/15 at 1:04 pm to ATLTiger
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Billy Gonzales, and he was only WR coach. I think he had "passing game coordinator" in his title,
you're exactly correct. However, one would assume, I think, that a passing game coordinator would take the role of getting the QB and receivers in a rhythm. I'll never claim to be an x's and o's guy (hence I never comment on playcalling), but overall mediocrity is overall mediocrity
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