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re: Honey Badger Quote on Mett

Posted on 4/1/12 at 10:38 pm to
Posted by LSUviaCincy
Cincinnati
Member since Sep 2011
874 posts
Posted on 4/1/12 at 10:38 pm to
Mett is ready to play and the fog of two seniors are gone. Timing and team chemistry are very fickle mistresses. I saw Rivers make some good throws and two very poor ones including the pick 6. He needs some developing but if Mett goes down I do not think all is lost. Early and may be wrong and hope to GOD I do not have to test that theory.

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/1/12 at 10:46 pm to
Mett would have tore up Alabama. Randle was open all night.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260225 posts
Posted on 4/1/12 at 10:46 pm to
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Miles didn't play the best QB last year and it had everything to do with the fact the two incumbents were Sr's.

Yes, of course. That's the only possible explanation and the only possible factor. The fact that starting the two SRs got us to 13-0, an SEC Championship and a unanimous #1 ranking for 10 weeks straight could not possibly have played any role in his decision making.


The SECCG and NCG are proof positive no one else was going to play. Pretend all you want, the best QB wasn't playing.

It's not an issue this year.
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12493 posts
Posted on 4/1/12 at 10:53 pm to
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the best QB wasn't playing
That may be so, but it is absurd to insist (as you did) that the ONLY factor in him deciding to play Jefferson/Lee was the fact they were SRs. You are in fact asserting that Miles did not even consider in any way their performances in games or in practice, the technique or poise of any of the QBs, their maturity and dedication, their familiarity with the offense, or anything else; you are saying he just looked at their classes and said, "these are the SRs, so they play. Period."

Hopefully, expressed this way, you can start to understand how stupid you were sounding.

Posted by jozy
2nd and 2
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 4/1/12 at 10:53 pm to
Who translated?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260225 posts
Posted on 4/1/12 at 10:55 pm to
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That may be so, but it is absurd to insist (as you did) that the ONLY factor in him deciding to play Jefferson/Lee was the fact they were SRs.


Right. Their favorable status with the HC would have gotten them exclusive PT even if they were Jr's. My bad. The best QB wasn't going to play, period and nothing outside of injuries would have changed that.

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you are saying he just looked at their classes and said, "these are the SRs, so they play. Period."


No, you just lack the intelligence to understand the reality, as it was. Miles was playing JJ, then Lee...period.
This post was edited on 4/1/12 at 10:57 pm
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/1/12 at 11:00 pm to
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Yes, of course. That's the only possible explanation and the only possible factor. The fact that starting the two SRs got us to 13-0, an SEC Championship and a unanimous #1 ranking for 10 weeks straight could not possibly have played any role in his decision making.

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The SECCG and NCG are proof positive no one else was going to play. Pretend all you want, the best QB wasn't playing

The fact that they were SRs was probably the main reason, but the fact that they both played extremely well for a majority of the first 12 games had to have effected the coaches reasoning as well.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260225 posts
Posted on 4/1/12 at 11:03 pm to
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but the fact that they both played extremely well for a majority of the first 12 games had to have effected the coaches reasoning as well.



I imagine LSU would have been 13-0 with anyone at QB considering how dominant the defense and special teams were playing. The QB position wasn't necessary to win a game until the final one.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 4/1/12 at 11:05 pm to
That is true, but had they struggled like JJ did in the last 2 games early on in the season, I think it would have been much more likely that the coaches would have played Mett. But since they played well during the year, the coaches weren't going to change that in the last 2 games.
This post was edited on 4/1/12 at 11:06 pm
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12493 posts
Posted on 4/1/12 at 11:10 pm to
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The best QB wasn't going to play, period and nothing outside of injuries would have changed that.
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Miles was playing JJ, then Lee...period
Right. So with them combining for a passer rating of, say, 5, with 30 INTs and zero TDs between them, and us being 0-11 going into the Arkansas game, you're pretty certain that he would continue to alternate between them and never give Mett or the others a chance. Sounds like you have a healthy, realistic and rational perception of Miles and his coaching methods.

Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 4/1/12 at 11:19 pm to
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The best QB wasn't going to play, period and nothing outside of injuries would have changed that.


there's more to winning a job than just having the most raw talent...here's one successful coach's take...

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you've got to get the right guys on the bus, you've got to get them in the right seats, and you've got to get the wrong guys off the bus," ... "And I'm talking about character, attitude, competitive spirit, guys that can be responsible and accountable to do the job."


LIke it or not, Miles and most other coaches (Saban in this case), will not start a guy that doesn't give full effort. There were multiple reports of issues with Mettenberger. It appears he's beyond those now and ready to lead.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 4/1/12 at 11:20 pm to
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No, you just lack the intelligence to understand the reality, as it was. Miles was playing JJ, then Lee...period.



and you are just assuming that Mettenbeger would have been appreciably better last year.

In a way, its fascinating to me that sometimes people don't consider the unseen at all and others they see nothing but. JJ was terrible in the last 2 games, ZM has more potential, so naturally we assume he would have been better. But its also partially 20/20 hindsight, mixed with memories of 2009 and 2010. We don't know how ZM would have played, but its very doubtful it would have affected the outcome of the BCS CG.

Some one said RR was open all night. OK, but the OL was also getting blown off the ball all night. We couldn't run at all, its not that hard to defend the pass on 3rd and 8. Saban and Smart are very good, I'm sure if we had a passing QB, they would have had more in coverage. The threat of a passing game may have opened up the running game more, but would it have been enough? As frustrating as 1/9 was, we need to just to accept that we lost to a great team and move on to 2012.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 4/1/12 at 11:29 pm to
ALL IN
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164097 posts
Posted on 4/1/12 at 11:32 pm to
LEAN ON ME
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10436 posts
Posted on 4/1/12 at 11:38 pm to
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and nothing outside of injuries would have changed that


I am glad we are a fan base that would not have been relieved to see an injury in the last game. That would be a shame if we were.
Posted by leeh
Sinton, Texas
Member since Jul 2005
358 posts
Posted on 4/2/12 at 1:52 am to
Last year has come and gone (13-1). I've been around longer than most (80) and the last 10 years have been the best ever.

We have great players, a great coach in Miles and his staff. Whatta, shouldda has come and gone as well. So lets enjoy getting ready for the coming football year.

How about the Tiger Baseball players. Pulled out the broom and swept the Hogs.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 4/2/12 at 2:12 am to
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after the first 5 games Everyone will be sick to their stomaches thinking about how mett should have played last year. Don't give me the crap he wasn't ready. he had some time of college and juco. Our defense and running game was so good he could have dominated last year,



Every great coach you have ever heard of chooses experience over hype. That's all Mett had.
Posted by bigeztiger
Columbus Ohio
Member since Jul 2011
5092 posts
Posted on 4/2/12 at 6:24 am to
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after the first 5 games Everyone will be sick to their stomaches thinking about how mett should have played last year.
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 4/2/12 at 6:33 am to
You mean all we needed was a QB who could throw the ball down field to our receivers with out throwing interceptions?

Posted by 2007lsuno1
Marietta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
6692 posts
Posted on 4/2/12 at 6:41 am to
God how we've waited.

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