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Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:42 pm to Choupique19
quote:This park's outfield fence is the same distance and height as Rosenblatt.
the ball park turned homerun balls into flyouts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:45 pm to TigerFanDan
1. I'm pretty sure the old bats were used every year at Rosenblatt
2. The parks face opposite directions. The wind always blows in at TD Ameritrade. It always carried balls out at Rosenblatt
2. The parks face opposite directions. The wind always blows in at TD Ameritrade. It always carried balls out at Rosenblatt
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:56 pm to Albeaver
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You live with blinders on.
You know nothing about me other than the last few posts you've read.
You agreed with all of these comments last night until you got butt hurt about someone attempting to take away from your pitcher's performance. People complain about the park/bats and use your hitter being robbed as an example and you have no problem with it.
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Everybody saw the travesty from CWS game 1. Oregon St got robbed.
quote:LINK
as did LSU twice....
But when the Beavs hold someone down how dare anyone suggest the park may have played a part in it, every conference out west is just crawling with pitchers as good as Nola (even though Nola wasn't mentioned anywhere in the thread), other conferences only have 1 or two pitchers, etc. Blinders my arse. You can gtfo with that bullshite, you hack.
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 11:58 pm
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:58 pm to Choupique19
quote:
What do you think the NCAA would do of the final scores in the Final Four were 25-23 and 28-24?
Ban white people...
Posted on 6/20/13 at 12:01 am to RBWilliams8
Posted on 6/20/13 at 12:07 am to ell_13
quote:
And there it is. We can compare baseball to soccer.
I play soccer pretty actively myself and was by no means trying to make fun of the beautiful game. I was simply pointing out the truth here.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 12:10 am to MOT
Go back and read my comments in this thread. I never said I disagree that this field has sucked away some home runs. I said tonight the field was not a factor, and my reply regarding Nola was to wahoocs who did bring up Nola.....
Sorry, I'm right, you are wrong.
Sorry, I'm right, you are wrong.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 12:19 am to Albeaver
You are correct, I didn't see the Nola mention buried in his post.
But that doesn't change the rest of my post. You agree with it when it affects your hitter, but when your pitcher performs well it becomes "nah, we actually have pitching depth out west, there is nothing wrong with it".
Speaking of Nola:
But that doesn't change the rest of my post. You agree with it when it affects your hitter, but when your pitcher performs well it becomes "nah, we actually have pitching depth out west, there is nothing wrong with it".
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4-2 games are quite normal in conferences that actually have more than 1 or 2 good pitchers
Speaking of Nola:
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ok a quarter a dozen. He'd be the 5th or 6th best pitcher in pac 12....
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 12:23 am
Posted on 6/20/13 at 12:25 am to MOT
No, dude thats not what I said. I said TONIGHT, the field was not a factor for either team, tonight was great pitching by both Boyd and Slegers. I do agree that the field plays way to big for the CWS.
BTW I am appreciative to be able to have a forum to have a discussion on the CWS at all. thanks for engaging.
BTW I am appreciative to be able to have a forum to have a discussion on the CWS at all. thanks for engaging.
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 12:32 am
Posted on 6/20/13 at 12:33 am to Albeaver
Ofcourse it wasn't a factor, your pitching is that good. It was just a factor for your hitter Saturday, and all the other teams that don't have the incredible pitching depth of the great west coast teams also managed to benefit from it.
I think I may even change my sig quote. Aaron Nola: SEC Pitcher of the Year, Future high first round draft choice, probable major league pitcher down the line = just another guy in the PAC.
I think I may even change my sig quote. Aaron Nola: SEC Pitcher of the Year, Future high first round draft choice, probable major league pitcher down the line = just another guy in the PAC.
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 12:40 am
Posted on 6/20/13 at 12:37 am to MOT
You seem to be missing my point. Boyd had 11 strike outs. Indiana could not touch him. Neither team hit a ball deep enough to be considered to have a chance to be a home run. Also, I have not once complained that we should have beat MSU on saturday.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 12:43 am to Cap Crunch
quote:
At least the camera men are still finding the hot chicks
Exactly
Posted on 6/20/13 at 12:44 am to Albeaver
That second out in the 9th would have been out of many parks where wind wasn't blowing in. It didn't look close but he crushed it and threw his hands up in disgust.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 12:51 am to tigerskin
No way, he hit it way too high, it was 10 feet from the warning track. Beavs Dyllon Davis hit one to the warning track in right, but again, don't think it was a HR anywhere else either.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 12:55 am to Albeaver
I was there. The wind completely ate it up although I don't care much one way or the other.
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 12:56 am
Posted on 6/20/13 at 1:06 am to tigerskin
I just re-watched it, it was caught probably 25 feet from warning track. That ball had way too much height under it. Fielders didn't even run back.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 1:50 am to Choupique19
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Anorher 1-0 game
I think I heard that this was the first 1-0 game at the CWS since 1985 (could have misheard and its 1995). So another?
Posted on 6/20/13 at 12:13 pm to Albeaver
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You seem to be missing my point.
You're talking specifics, and I'm talking generally.
There can be legitimately great pitching performances under the current circumstances.
If you've followed baseball in general for any length of time, and know it's history, pitchers are taught to keep the ball down for a reason.
What is happening now is a total contradiction to the game as we knew it. Pitchers are being rewarded for using the upper part of the zone, with ZERO consequence.
I have never seen outfield positioning like this outside of my children's travel ball tournaments, when they are playing on under and oversized fields.
I don't think we will get the opportunity to prove me right, but I'd be willing to bet five figures that the lack of offensive production is not a testament to overall improvement in the quality of pitching, rather the circumstances in which we have decided to determine our national champion the past two seasons.
We have changed the game, and not for the better, IMO.
And back to Nola vs. the PAC 12. No sense arguing the point. You will eventually realize how ridiculous it was.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 12:56 pm to Albeaver
quote:
You seem to be missing my point. Boyd had 11 strike outs. Indiana could not touch him. Neither team hit a ball deep enough to be considered to have a chance to be a home run. Also, I have not once complained that we should have beat MSU on saturday.
One thing you are failing to consider is how this ball park allows you to pitch. You can repeatedly take chances with pitches here that you could never consistently take in a more conventional ball park. You can challenge with the fastball at the letters over and over again with little to no downside. If they catch up to it, it's probably a fly out. If not, you get the strikeout. Under normal circumstances, after a couple of those leave the yard, you realize the reward of a few more strikeouts is not worth a couple of home runs.
Yes, these are good pitchers, but the way this ball park is playing has significantly changed the game. The threat of a home run is essentially gone, it's just that simple.
A common phrase when referring to insurance runs late in a game, especially to getting the lead to 4, was so 1 swing of the bat can't beat you. TD took care of that!
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