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re: Hey look, another shutout in TD Ameritrade Park

Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:06 pm to
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:06 pm to
I know you don't follow LSU baseball like we do, you want to know what Paul Mainieri did all year? He prepared for Omaha. He bunted all year long, he put a .187 hitter in the lineup to run down fly balls in the large outfield of Ameritrade.

I guess next year he'll know that his outfielders can play 15 steps behind the infield.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:08 pm to
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Rob Anderson ?@_robanderson 15m Update after 10 CWS games. Teams hitting .235 with 2 homers, 1 home team win, 0 fans on the field.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:10 pm to
We were told all year when Stevenson and laird were auto outs that we would need their speed in Omaha

Gotta call bullshite on that

Just need to bunt the ball and hope for errors.. As well as take walks and lean into some pitches

The new baseball
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:11 pm to
I doubt if anymore homers are hit
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:16 pm to
Larid has his slumps like every other player, but he wasn't an automatic out. Larid gonna be great next yyear with a year of experience under his belt!
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:22 pm to
Laird was bad for the majority of the year at the plate until he stepped it up in the post season
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:24 pm to
Not the majority of the year, but from late April through May, Laird slumped badly. He couldn't even get a bunt down.

Now in June, Laird was great!
Posted by Albeaver
Member since Aug 2004
338 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:36 pm to
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They had 2 unearned runs before NC St ran out of pitching.


Ah ha! So Pitching does come into play.....
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:42 pm to
Posted by TigerEggs
NOLA
Member since Nov 2009
622 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:47 pm to
How does the size of this stadium prevent a base hit? Y'all act like home runs are the only way to score. Ever think the big stage is just getting to these teams and they are choking at the plate.

And I agree that they need to do something about college baseball (bats, balls, etc.) but come on this argument is getting ridiculous.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60301 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:47 pm to
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Laird was bad the majority of the year


No...no he wasn't. He was bad 4 series or so. He was hitting .300 plus before his bad month. He hit .500 or so from A&M series til the end of the year. There was an adjustment to SEC pitching, but then he was lights out. He started using Katz bat or at least the same model.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61837 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:54 pm to
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this argument is getting ridiculous


No, with each passing game, new Omaha lows are reached. Tonight came within 2 outs of becoming the first time since 1975 for 3 complete game shutouts in a single CWS. Don't worry, there's still 5 or 6 games left.

The outcome of 4 games have been changed due to the lack of carry in the ball park.

Oregon St vs Miss St
LSU vs UCLA
Miss St vs Indiana
NC State vs UCLA

Posted by Albeaver
Member since Aug 2004
338 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 12:00 am to
Refresh my memory on MSU v. Indiana, I don't remember Indiana getting ahold of one. Not that it did't happen, I just don't remember that one...
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 12:00 am to
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How does the size of this stadium prevent a base hit?


The size has nothing to do with it. It's the location and the direction the stadium faces that's the problem.

During the CWS, the wind primarily comes from the south and that stadium faces south, so the wind blows in toward home plate.

So when balls are popped up, the outfield can play shallow because the wind will keep the ball from flying out of the park, if it had a chance to do so. (8 out of 10 times)

The stadium is also located in somewhat of a valley so there is usually a wind blowing in from circulating in that valley. It's a beautiful park, no doubt, but when commentators really start eating up air time discussing how many long balls (or lack thereof) have been hit, there's a problem.

I'd like to see them start using MLB or minor league baseballs, since the bats more than likely won't change.


The runs that do happen are almost always a result of an error/poor fielding by the other team.
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 12:05 am
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31014 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 12:03 am to
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Refresh my memory on MSU v. Indiana, I don't remember Indiana getting ahold of one. Not that it did't happen, I just don't remember that one...



I know you weren't talking to me but I remember someone from Indiana crushing a ball but it stayed in the park.

I believe there have only been 2 HR's thus far in the CWS. One by Katz and one by a guy from UNC.
Posted by TigerEggs
NOLA
Member since Nov 2009
622 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 12:11 am to
I don't think you understand what I'm saying

The overwhelming majority of runs scored are from plays other than a home run. I get that this park doesn't allow home runs easily but it has absolutely zero effect on the batters ability to hit singles, doubles, and be disciplined at the plate.

We didn't lose because we couldn't hit home runs. We lost because we couldn't hit period.

And yea the stats are going to be skewed (lowering scoring) in the CWS because you are generally facing better pitching.
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31014 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 12:18 am to
No, I didn't.


We lost because we couldn't hit, I agree to a point.

We got runners on base, we couldn't get those guys home.

Crap, UCLA can't hit and they're 2-0. They wait for the other team to try too hard, make errors, drop a ball when trying to pick it up, etc.

However, they do have some good pitchers but so do we.

I forget the numbers of people we left on base but it's staggering. We kept trying to hit the ball hard and it went right to one of the outfielders, usually.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22328 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 12:21 am to
Dude, I ain't gonna lie.

You really don't fricking get it or have a clue.

The statistical data from baseball is damn near foolproof.

LSU was NOT going to win this tournament, and probably wouldn't win it if it were played 10 times with these 8 teams.

This has absolutely nothing to do with changing the way a national champion is determined collegiately in men's baseball.

Why don't we just allow 4 outs for 7 innings next year? You just don't grasp the intracacies of the game if you don't realize what is being discussed in this thread.
Posted by Albeaver
Member since Aug 2004
338 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 12:21 am to
Adjusting means hitting the ball hard to holes. The teams that score runs in the CWS are doing that. (as well as capitalizing on other teams mistakes)
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31014 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 12:23 am to
It's been more of capitalizing on mistakes than hitting to holes. IMO


It's just not how baseball is supposed to be. My two cents.
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