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re: Hey look, another shutout in TD Ameritrade Park
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:52 am to LSU316
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:52 am to LSU316
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If patience and going with the pitch rather than trying to beast it into the stands at a park
This is something else I keep seeing repeated and I have no idea where it is coming from. It isn't like LSU lived and died by the HR all year. With the exception of a few players they were patient, often went to the opposite field, and hit plenty of doubles in the gap, etc.
It's as if some people see a fly ball and automatically respond
:omg:
"he was trying to hit a homer!!!"
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:54 am to MOT
Any flyball that is pulled means the hitter was trying to hit a homerun. Those with real knowledge of the game know this.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:56 am to LSU316
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If I have a hitter at the college level that swings at 2 pitches with a long slow swing then pops out on a letter high fast ball and I tell him when he gets back to the dugout to shorten his swing a bit next time and get the barrel to the zone a bit faster that is an unreasonable request?
first of all, if a guy has a long slow swing, he's prolly gonna have a long slow swing all the time. Bat speed isn't somethinng a player can change based on ballpark sizes or anything for that matter. A guys bat speed is a guys bat speed, period. some have quicker hands than others.
Telling a player to "swing faster" is some BS you hear in T ball, not in Omaha.
second, what does popping up on a high pitch have to do with the type of ballpark you are playing in? If a guy pops out on a high pitch then he's gonna be more conscious of that pitch his next at bat and either get on top of it or lay off all together.
Your changing your argument from making adjustments based on ballpark sizes to making adjustments based on bad pitch selection or mechanics. It's completely different.
this board knows way more about football than baseball and that is saying something folks.
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 10:57 am
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:58 am to MOT
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It isn't like LSU
I though this was a general conversation.
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With the exception of a few players they were patient
Since we are talking LSU....I guess I watched some different games than you did. I think we could have standed to take a lot more pitches than we did from about the USCe series through the end of the season. It appeared we got real anxious especially on first pitches and in plus counts. We swung at a lot of bad pitches with plus counts.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:59 am to LSU316
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If patience and going with the pitch rather than trying to beast it into the stands at a park where we know it doesn't fly well is what you call approach and mechanics then absolutely.
I love how everyone on this board knows our players were swinging out there shoes trying to hit homeruns.
what players were doing this exactly?
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 11:05 am
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:00 am to LsuTool
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what does popping up on a high pitch have to do with the type of ballpark you are playing in?
All I heard since Sunday was that TDA was the reason we popped all those pitches up on Sunday.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:01 am to LsuTool
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what players were doing this exactly?
Apprently any of them that hit a flyball. Clearly that's all Ibarra wanted to do. According to the board as soon as Katz hit his everyone else wanted to hit one too. And when we hit a deep flyball the next guy simply thought "I have to hit the ball farther".
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:04 am to MOT
On a side note, Rodon is a man child
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:07 am to PurpleAndGold86
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Apprently any of them that hit a flyball
I guess Rhymes flying out to RF vs UNC is because he was swinging for the fences.
I guess Ibarra should have "swung slower" when he ripped the tits off those 2 flyballs that should have been homeruns to left and that lineout to the shortstop vs UNC. If only Javi would have told him to use his Ichiro swing instead of his Jose swing...
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:08 am to LsuTool
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If only Javi would have told him to use his Ichiro swing instead of his Jose swing
It's like a golfer having his whole bag of clubs. A hitter needs to decide which swing to use before they step in the box depending on the situation/location.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:09 am to LSU 318 LSU
I just don't think what seems to be necessary to win at TDA is a very entertaining brand of baseball. If college baseball is going to continue to grow, I think some changes to the current CWS situation are going to have to be made.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:09 am to PurpleAndGold86
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It's like a golfer having his whole bag of clubs. A hitter needs to decide which swing to use before they step in the box depending on the situation/location
u give hitting lessons? I gotta kid that has a lot of catching up to do.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:11 am to LsuTool
.....I'll leave all you geniuses to your sarcasm.Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:12 am to LsuTool
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u give hitting lessons? I gotta kid that has a lot of catching up to do.
I think 316 is the only one that does hitting lessons. He played legion ball until he was 19.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:17 am to LSU316
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I though this was a general conversation
It is, you've previously mentioned LSU specifically but the point can apply to anyone. Fly ball doesn't automatically = trying to "beast it out of the park".
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:18 am to ell_13
people here are making it seem like gale-force winds are blowing at TDAmeritrade park. Good lord, maybe the wind affects the ball's carry a bit, but it surely doesn't affect hard hit grounders and line drives. Just hit the damn ball hard and you'll score runs. Blaming it all on the park and the wind is just silly.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:20 am to LSU316
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All I heard since Sunday was that TDA was the reason we popped all those pitches up on Sunday.
You haven't heard anyone say this, unless you are grouping balls that were hammered and died at the track in with routine popups...which says more about your perspective than the people talking about the park.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:27 am to MOT
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you've previously mentioned LSU specifically
In response to a question directly asking about LSU from another poster.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:28 am to atltiger6487
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Just hit the damn ball hard and you'll score runs. Blaming it all on the park and the wind is just silly.
Dude you better get out of here with all truth and logic or else you will be riddled with these geniuses calling you an idiot and otherwise slandering you in the name of what they call humor amongst themselves.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:47 am to atltiger6487
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Good lord, maybe the wind affects the ball's carry a bit, but it surely doesn't affect hard hit grounders and line drives. Just hit the damn ball hard and you'll score runs. Blaming it all on the park and the wind is just silly.
the ballpark isn't the reason LSU went 2 and Q. However, it cost LSU at least 1 jack vs UCLA and maybe two.
With that said, LSU lost the UCLA game because of errors. We lost the UNC game because they were better than us with RISP and at the plate all together. Moran, Bolt and their catcher came through in the clutch with hard hit balls and we couldnt get it done. Bregman and Rhymes were in slumps and that killed us. Ibarra hit a ton of balls really hard and got nothing to show for it, that killed us. No timely hitting for LSU did us in. That is baseball.
TD Ameriatrade is bad for college baseball. It kills one of the most exciting plays in the game. It rewards pitchers for bad pitches and it shits on hitters for hitting balls that would otherwise be gone. Players cannot simply change who they are 60 games into a season. You can lay off pitches, bunt, make small adjustments, but you cannot change your swing, mechanics, bat speed, and whatever kind of BS this board can come up with in an effort to pretend they know what the hell they are talking about.
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