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re: "He can recruit, but he can't coach." ---Dan Patrick
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:58 am to Salmon
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:58 am to Salmon
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but plenty of schools that "recruit themselves" have proven to not "recruit themselves" over the years Texas, USC, UCLA, Miami, FSU, etc
none of those schools have the same recruiting conditions as LSU.
And UCLA? Miami? I thought you would use Texas, Florida, and USC
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:58 am to Salmon
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he took a school that was trending downward and turned program around to start winning again?
And he took a program trending upward at LSU, plateaued it and then trended it downward.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:59 am to Salmon
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hard to call 1 season a trend...
Wow, really?
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:59 am to Dallasgrowl
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And he took a program trending upward at LSU, plateaued it and then trended it downward.
ok??
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:01 am to Dallasgrowl
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Wow, really?
yes really
by that definition Saban had LSU trending downwards
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:02 am to Salmon
quote:If 2011 doesn't happen, it makes it very clear Miles is nothing more than a very average coach. 2011 is what baffles me though, and keeps me from saying average.
ok??
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:02 am to Salmon
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yes really
by that definition Saban had LSU trending downwards
Yeap
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:02 am to Topwater Trout
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one of those schools have the same recruiting conditions as LSU.
of course they don't
but all of those schools have the "recruit themselves" moniker
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:03 am to Salmon
quote:No. Look at Miles first year here. He had that team locked and loaded. Looked at Gundys first year. That team was shite
yes really
by that definition Saban had LSU trending downwards
4-7 with no hope
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:03 am to lsupride87
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2011 doesn't happen, it makes it very clear Miles is nothing more than a very average coach. 2011 is what baffles me though, and keeps me from saying average.
That is the toughest sos any LSU team has played in the history of the program.
Only two coaches at LSU has finished AP #1.
You guys have a false sense of the type of program LSU has been throughout its history.
Yet somehow any idiot can just cruise and pick up win after win and win multiple titles?
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 11:05 am
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:04 am to Salmon
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he took a school that was trending downward and turned program around to start winning again?
To 7 wins?? Are you delusional. His last year was back downward again.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:04 am to lsupride87
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If 2011 doesn't happen, it makes it very clear Miles is nothing more than a very average coach. 2011 is what baffles me though, and keeps me from saying average.
I mean...yeah, but it did happen
it showed that Miles could turn around a team that was moving downward from the 08 and 09 season
Miles wasn't going to survive 2010 if he didn't win like he did
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:04 am to Salmon
quote:Which is why I said I dont call him simply average....
I mean...yeah, but it did happen
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:06 am to lsupride87
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No. Look at Miles first year here. He had that team locked and loaded. Looked at Gundys first year. That team was shite
4-7 with no hope
there it is
Miles wins more with Sabans players, Saban gifted him the players
Gundy wins less with Miles players, Miles left the cupboard dry
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:06 am to Howyouluhdat
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To 7 wins?? Are you delusional
"to a point"
are you slow?
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 11:07 am
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:07 am to El Campo Tiger
Harbaugh may or may not be able to coach. He's been at UM for 1.25 seasons and is 13-3 overall. That is the exact same record as Miles in his first 16 games at LSU.
Miles has coached in a way tougher environment in the SEC West than Harbaugh. I'm not saying Miles is a better coach than Harbaugh but I am saying we don't know yet.
Miles has coached in a way tougher environment in the SEC West than Harbaugh. I'm not saying Miles is a better coach than Harbaugh but I am saying we don't know yet.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:09 am to Salmon
quote:I mean is it not true? The trends seem to make that very obvious Salmon
Miles wins more with Sabans players, Saban gifted him the players
Gundy wins less with Miles players, Miles left the cupboard dry
Gundy has proven to be better than Miles, so his 4-7 first year makes it seem fairly obvious the team was shite when handed to him
Saban has been proven to be in GOAT status, so it seems fairly obvious the team Miles had was stacked(the NFL production also shows it)
But, you put your head in the sand and post an emoji
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 11:10 am
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:09 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
Oh I think harbaugh is a better coach. Would he fit at LSU? Prob not.
I'm just arguing this bullshite that he can't coach just because he's lost some games that everyone else in the country would have lost.
I'm just arguing this bullshite that he can't coach just because he's lost some games that everyone else in the country would have lost.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:10 am to Salmon
I honestly think that if a group of successful coaches at any level sat around in a circle and seriously talked football scheming, formations, zones, techniques, etc that Miles would have a hard time doing so. He has had his success built on a plethora of talented players and coaches around him which I can give credit to him for finding. Now it's time to adapt and he has no clue how to. Hell he was an O-lineman and coach and our OL is always mediocre
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 11:13 am
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