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re: Harris' passing stats by quarter
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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this board overrates turnovers
Is this serious?
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:16 pm to Ritual76
I see 5 less passes than the 1st half. I have no idea why y'all are acting like we went ultra conservative compared to the 1st. The passes we attempted just weren't as successful, so we didn't have the opportunity to pass more.
Just looking st stats at face value doesn't do anything.
Just looking st stats at face value doesn't do anything.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:16 pm to The Truth 34
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i'm not saying we need to go all baylor and throw it 70 times, but for frick's sake. we kept a team in the game that we should've beaten handily. if you can't see the problem with this, i can't help you.
We had the same run/pass ratio in the 2nd and 3rd quarter, we just ran far fewer plays in the 3rd quarter.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:17 pm to GRTiger
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Is this serious?
there is a correlation between turnovers and wins but it's not super strong and typically the stats are run by turnover margin, which involves a lot of luck (esp with fumbles recovered/lost). a long-distance interception isn't that much different than a punt (with average special teams. it's probably an advantage with our punting), yardage-wise, which negates the impact of those plays almost entirely
getting too worried about interceptions is kind of like not going for it on 4th down (or playing to go for it on 4th)...it's old school thinking that isn't based in statistical analysis for the most part
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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so yeah, the field position was an issue, but we weren't aggressive enough to flip it
Florida was not going to beat us last night unless we gave them some cheap scores (which we did, twice). Being aggressive with the football inside your own 25 against a team that is among the best in the country in takeaways is retarded when your defense is holding them to 326 total yards and 14 points.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:25 pm to The Truth 34
LSU did not take the foot off of the gas. It had three possessions in the third quarter. All began at LSU's 25. The first began with a holding penalty.
The second was drive was one of the only calls all night I didn't like from Cam, who called a great game. It was the shot he took to Dural on a 2nd-n-6 on the second drive.
The third possession Fournette gained seven yards on a first-down rush. Hard to argue with a second-down rush and LF lost 2 or 3.
The only other call that I thought was a little goofy was the tight end screen, although in hindsight it helped get the ball on the right hash for the fake.
Any criticisms of play calling last night is nit picking at its best. The play calling in SEC games has been top notch.
The second was drive was one of the only calls all night I didn't like from Cam, who called a great game. It was the shot he took to Dural on a 2nd-n-6 on the second drive.
The third possession Fournette gained seven yards on a first-down rush. Hard to argue with a second-down rush and LF lost 2 or 3.
The only other call that I thought was a little goofy was the tight end screen, although in hindsight it helped get the ball on the right hash for the fake.
Any criticisms of play calling last night is nit picking at its best. The play calling in SEC games has been top notch.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:25 pm to chilge1
so wait your plan is to just sit deep in our own side of the field all half and give UF field position the entire half?
just sit back, ride it out, and hope the clock runs down before they have enough opportunities to avoid fricking up and score?
and that punt return TD is slightly on the offense, b/c it was only on the table b/c of our failure to convert the first
and that's not a comment based on last night. i've been saying for a month the one stat we need to REALLY focus on is punts. our offensive goal should be to decrease punting to almost 0
just sit back, ride it out, and hope the clock runs down before they have enough opportunities to avoid fricking up and score?
and that punt return TD is slightly on the offense, b/c it was only on the table b/c of our failure to convert the first
and that's not a comment based on last night. i've been saying for a month the one stat we need to REALLY focus on is punts. our offensive goal should be to decrease punting to almost 0
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we sat on a lead. we have done that a whole lot this year
We didn't drastically shift the amount of runs vs passes until the last two drives. One of those started on our 1 with 6+ minutes left and the other was on Florida's side of the field with 3+ minutes left and them only having one timeout.
Some of you need to check the box score and play by play. The game you think you saw isn't the one that actually happened on the field.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:28 pm to MOT
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and the other was on Florida's side of the field with 3+ minutes left and them only having one timeout.
and we punted, which was the 2nd worst coaching decision of the night behind getting to the line slow as frick after the fumble
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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getting too worried about interceptions is kind of like not going for it on 4th down (or playing to go for it on 4th)...it's old school thinking that isn't based in statistical analysis for the most part
It didn't seem like they were too worried about an interception on the touchdown throw just before halftime...
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:30 pm to chilge1
Harris is #3 in the SEC and 17 in Nation in QB rating(ESPN). If he keeps this up it's gonna be a special year
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and we punted, which was the 2nd worst coaching decision of the night behind getting to the line slow as frick after the fumble
That has nothing to do with this subject, but the alternative to the punt was a 52 yard field goal attempt. You're only digging yourself a deeper hole here.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:31 pm to chilge1
that was backyard football and all harris showing flashes of the QB he could be if he was allowed to flourish
you take risks for big plays. i've read a few analyses and big plays are basically the #1 correlation to wins in football
harris understands this
you take risks for big plays. i've read a few analyses and big plays are basically the #1 correlation to wins in football
harris understands this
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:31 pm to chilge1
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It didn't seem like they were too worried about an interception on the touchdown throw just before halftime...
My favorite play of the game! I was ecstatic!
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:32 pm to MOT
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but the alternative to the punt was a 52 yard field goal attempt.
is going for it (especially setting it up on 3rd) now illegal in football?
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
Of course not. But you won't find anyone stupid enough to do it on 4th and 7 in that situation. This isn't 4th and 7 in the punt/FG/go for it gray area in the middle of the second quarter.
ETA: And again, you're shifting the discussion away from the real point here.
ETA: And again, you're shifting the discussion away from the real point here.
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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so wait your plan is to just sit deep in our own side of the field all half and give UF field position the entire half?
What field position are you talking about?
Florida 2nd Half Drives:
From FLA 34: 10 plays, 66 yards TD
From FLA 27: 6 plays, 17 yards Punt
From FLA 25: 8 plays, 40 yards Punt
From FLA 38: 4 plays, 0 yards Punt
From FLA 10: 7 plays, 39 yards Downs
They weren't having success against our defense. The worst thing that could have happened yesterday would be to get too aggressive near the endzone and give Florida a short field.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:37 pm to MOT
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Of course not. But you won't find anyone stupid enough to do it on 4th and 7 in that situation. This isn't 4th and 7 in the punt/FG/go for it gray area in the middle of the second quarter.
when you're on the opponent's side of the field you should never punt. that's NEVER
we traded 25 yards in field position (were at the 35. punted to the 10) for 1 play to win the game
which is more valuable?
there have been MULTIPLE studies on this and it's not close
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:40 pm to The Truth 34
The way Fla came out in the 3rd I can understand not wanting to put the ball in the air against that secondary when you have the RBs we have
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i've read a few analyses and big plays are basically the #1 correlation to wins in football
So why does the Big 12 suck so much dick?
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