re: Guys you all know how I feel about Miles, but we can't fire him right now

I have zero faith in the powers to find a coach. Zero. But I kind of want Les to retire so all you clowns will see that LSU will be in a dog fight to find a coach with so many openings. Too many people think LSU is the best around, that they could just hire anyone and win back to back national titles.

LSU could only manage less than 3 losses once under saban. One if the best ever. Just think about that for a second.

The criticism of Miles is warranted. Although, to be fair, they did get out of the I-formation scheme last night that everyone hated. That ultimately goes to show you that it's not the scheme, but the overall approach to the offense. You cannot play so afraid to beat yourself that you forget to beat the other team in the process.

As for the defense, if you didn't see that coming, you've had your head in the sand. The front 7 is simply just lacking talent. That was evident in 2013 where the defense desperately needed some depth and got relatively little contribution from the big 2012 LB class and the big 2013 DL class. I fully expect Coach O to fix that issue and within two years (possibly sooner) LSU will have a dominant front 7 again. Simply put, LSU is just lacking the "Jimmy's and Joe's" at the moment.

Miles was a changed coach after 2008. The entire offensive approach changed regardless of QB or OC. Most didn't want to believe that, but it was plainly evident. Likewise, 1/9/12 should not have been a surprise if you didn't bury your head in the sand starting in the WKU game that year. (They didn't get a single first down in the first half of the SECCG!)

I've been no big Miles supporter. I've never though he was some "sly fox" while on the outside sounding like a bonehead. I've always felt he was a mediocre, at best, gameday coach with no discernible plan and simply just a fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants approach which resulted in great gambles and mindboggling decisions alike.

STILL, he's kept LSU in national contention year after year. Call it luck, call it recruiting prowess, call it whatever. Many programs would kill for that kind of success. I'm not opposed to a change. But I am opposed to a change without any plan for the successor. The college football landscape has changed. Despite what LSU fans might think, great coaches aren't sitting by the phone just peeing all over themselves waiting for the LSU job to open up. Firing a coach without knowing you can get a "better" successor is crazy.

It's all about timing. Shula looked like he was building Bama back up, then Saban became available. The AD pounced and the rest was history. OSU had no plans to fire Tressell. Circumstances presented themselves and they were incredibly fortunate that Myer was available. Michigan went back and forth on getting rid of Carr. Whe he finally left, everyone was certain, Michigan, the winningest program in CFB history was going to make a homerun hire. They didn't. Twice! And frankly they probably wouldn't have this time if the rift between SF and Harbaugh hadn't gotten so bad. Texas has all the resources in the world to go along with a great recruiting base. The best they could do was a guy that was almost assuredly way down their list. Florida, right now looks like they might have a good coach. But remember, there have been PLENTY of guys who set the world on fire in year one, then fizzled out shortly thereafter. Still, with all the cache of the SEC and a terrific recruiting base, UF couldn't bring in that "big name" to Gainesville. Tenn. was sick of Flumer's "ceiling". It's been a miserable 8 years for them since.

So the question is again, is that known great coach available and willing to come to LSU? If so, pounce. If not, despite all of Miles' flaws, LSU is not in a position where they are forced to take a chance on someone who may or may not sink the program.

Have thought about this for a while, one thing I've been worried about when considering getting rid of Miles is losing the hard-nosed mentality of our program. It's been Miles' saving grace as a coach. Last thing I want to do is have an A&M type approach.

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Les is not going to resign - baring health concerns - and LSU is not going to push him out. We are stuck with him.

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If Alleva had to stones to say Cameron will not receive a new contract, I wonder how that would change Miles' thinking.

Hahahaha, you would consider Les a wart in this metaphor?!

Therein lies your problem....

Anyone who thinks we're going to pay 8 figures to fire a guy who hasn't had a couple of absolute disaster seasons (and by disaster I mean losing record or below) has no idea how the world works. I'm not saying he should or shouldn't be out, it's just not a realistic outcome. Like you said it'd have to get very bad

I'm not really interested in wading into details here as it will just devolve into folks asking for links or starting shite I'm uninterested in. Needless to say it can be done, and I would imagine Les is being gnawed at in a significant manner.

The exterior pressure is something he couldn't GAF about. But I think he realizes he has some of the greatest talent he's ever seen at the positions that are vital for his preferred method of offense right now...and yet he's had it absolutely jammed down his throat against two opponents he circled on his schedule for some payback this year.

Les is an introspective guy. He's thinking like all of us are: If not now? If not here? When? Where?

The inner pressure and doubt, coupled with what I've said-which is all I will say (and you can take it for however much-or however little-it's worth) on the matter-may be sufficient to ensure Miles is more than agreeable to an affable appearing discussion regarding his future.

i don't want to abandon a pro-style rushing game, but i just want a more developed offense like actual pro teams

like the offenses our last 2 opponents ran

i'm glad that the 2 teams we lost to run those sorts of offenses so our fan base can see when i criticize our "dinosaur" offense, i'm not asking to go TAMU or anything. you can have a power rushing game and not rely on the limited offensive philosophy miles' prefers

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i don't want to abandon a pro-style rushing game, but i just want a more developed offense like actual pro teams

like the offenses our last 2 opponents ran

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This times Eleventy Billion. Miles is too dim and stubborn to do this.