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re: Greg Studrawa and knee jerk reactions
Posted on 3/16/11 at 9:32 pm to Abe
Posted on 3/16/11 at 9:32 pm to Abe
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the line was average last year. lets see what actually happens this year. I don't think he is a good coach. We have the talent to be good. Sit T-bob on the bench.
I thought the line was above average last year. I think most knowledgeable folk will agree.
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Posted on 3/16/11 at 9:40 pm to Maximus
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will Josh D and T Bob be grandfathered into more PT than they deserve again?
LMFAO Maximus. Are you referring to the lineman who graded out better than anyone else during the season?
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Lets see if they can even slow top DTs path to the QB by maybe 0.1 second this year in big games
Again, are you kidding me? One DT, a Top 5 pick this year, manhandled LSU's line and EVERY other line he faced this year. The great OL at Alabama got handled by him. The studs at Arkansas got mauled as well. Sometimes your spite for players/coaches is fricking disgusting.
Posted on 3/16/11 at 9:51 pm to GFunk
FWIW, Stud wasn't in the best of health for awhile. You can see noticeable improvement in the OL since he's been fully healthy.
That and having more depth & more talent.
That and having more depth & more talent.
This post was edited on 3/16/11 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 3/16/11 at 9:54 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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You can see noticeable improvement in the OL
We all did. Some are just too stubborn to admit it.
Posted on 3/16/11 at 10:10 pm to Prominentwon
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Last year, the OL mowed the way for a running game that gained over 2,000 yards rushing in 2010. If this line dominates like expected in 2011, who gets the credit and why? Did the coaches miraculously learn how to coach over a 2 year span?
the oline did a very nice job last year, especially since we lost an experienced starter on the first play of the season. rantards will never be happy unless we are winning every game by fifty and the opposing coach is on his knees begging for mercy. the stupidity on this board demands complete domination of a conference that has won the last five natchams....geaux figure.
Posted on 3/16/11 at 10:38 pm to Prominentwon
Dont you like BBQ?
Posted on 3/16/11 at 10:49 pm to Cadello
The OL could not help but improve from 2009 to 2010.
Some of that is because we were really terrible. Some of it is because we went to a zone-blocking scheme on offense, and there were some growing pains from 2009 to 2010.
Anyone saying that Studrawa's health was a factor needs to admit that Studrawa's health was his own fault. I do think Wilkerson helped out some, but our offensive line improved when we benched T-Bob after giving up a horrible series of plays on the interior against Alabama. Watch when he goes to the Bench (There's a YouTube of every offensive snap of that game that you can search for and find very easily. I think it was linked here).
Hebert playing was not just Studrawa's decision. Miles played a heavy hand in it. I'll leave it there.
Miles had a ton of sayso in Hitt & Black playing, and that cost us this year because young kids like Hurst & Williford really didn't get a chance to develop by getting those snaps in 2009. We would've been that much better this year along the OL if we gave other kids opportunities.
Yes, we would've been even more leaky in 2009, but you take your lumps when you see the obvious regression from starters, and you come back that much more seasoned, grizzled, and experienced in 2010.
Instead, Hurst & Williford (no, I don't think he should've been redshirted when it was obvious Hitt wasn't up to snuff, and hadn't been since midway through 2008, to be honest) were not ready to come in for Blackwell, and Miles knew it, and even more mind-bogglingly than that decision in 2009, he compounded the mistake by putting T-Bob out there and preventing the interior of the OL from gelling with its most talented 3 kids out there at the same time.
I am of the opinion based on my conversations with others that Dudrawa did not want Hebert in there at Guard once Blackwell went down. I am also of the opinion that Miles relented at a certain point in the first half against Alabama in Tiger Stadium.
The offensive line's immediate improvement is tangible and quantifiable.
Watch the tapes.
Some of that is because we were really terrible. Some of it is because we went to a zone-blocking scheme on offense, and there were some growing pains from 2009 to 2010.
Anyone saying that Studrawa's health was a factor needs to admit that Studrawa's health was his own fault. I do think Wilkerson helped out some, but our offensive line improved when we benched T-Bob after giving up a horrible series of plays on the interior against Alabama. Watch when he goes to the Bench (There's a YouTube of every offensive snap of that game that you can search for and find very easily. I think it was linked here).
Hebert playing was not just Studrawa's decision. Miles played a heavy hand in it. I'll leave it there.
Miles had a ton of sayso in Hitt & Black playing, and that cost us this year because young kids like Hurst & Williford really didn't get a chance to develop by getting those snaps in 2009. We would've been that much better this year along the OL if we gave other kids opportunities.
Yes, we would've been even more leaky in 2009, but you take your lumps when you see the obvious regression from starters, and you come back that much more seasoned, grizzled, and experienced in 2010.
Instead, Hurst & Williford (no, I don't think he should've been redshirted when it was obvious Hitt wasn't up to snuff, and hadn't been since midway through 2008, to be honest) were not ready to come in for Blackwell, and Miles knew it, and even more mind-bogglingly than that decision in 2009, he compounded the mistake by putting T-Bob out there and preventing the interior of the OL from gelling with its most talented 3 kids out there at the same time.
I am of the opinion based on my conversations with others that Dudrawa did not want Hebert in there at Guard once Blackwell went down. I am also of the opinion that Miles relented at a certain point in the first half against Alabama in Tiger Stadium.
The offensive line's immediate improvement is tangible and quantifiable.
Watch the tapes.
Posted on 3/16/11 at 11:23 pm to Maximus
quote:im a big jj fan and hope he comes out and has a great year,that being said one of his biggest problems imo is he holds the ball too long.and with a poor passing attack i thought the o line did an awesome job last yerar.
will Josh D and T Bob be grandfathered into more PT than they deserve again? Reading that the line will be a strength in the spring is hardly an accomplishment. Lets see if they can even slow top DTs path to the QB by maybe 0.1 second this year in big games before we crown Stud
This post was edited on 3/16/11 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 3/16/11 at 11:26 pm to tigerswin03
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one of his biggest problems imo is he holds the ball too long
One of the most telling quotes from CLM after GC's departure was that he hoped the new OC would shortcut the "elaborate thought process" the QB's were used to under GC.
We'll see.
Posted on 3/17/11 at 1:24 am to GFunk
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Hebert playing was not just Studrawa's decision. Miles played a heavy hand in it. I'll leave it there.
Miles had a ton of sayso in Hitt & Black playing, and that cost us this year because young kids like Hurst & Williford really didn't get a chance to develop by getting those snaps in 2009.
Don't know who you talked to, but I don't think it's as simple as Miles made sure Hebert played because he was older. Wiliford played a good deal, and he was a little inconsistent. That's to be expected from a rsFR olineman. Both Tbob and Wiliford were needed after Blackwell went down IMO. And I think everyone saw what our running game was capable of with Blackwell in the lineup.
Posted on 3/17/11 at 10:24 am to south bama tiger
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Don't know who you talked to, but I don't think it's as simple as Miles made sure Hebert played because he was older. Wiliford played a good deal, and he was a little inconsistent. That's to be expected from a rsFR olineman. Both Tbob and Wiliford were needed after Blackwell went down IMO. And I think everyone saw what our running game was capable of with Blackwell in the lineup.
I'm not sure you read where I went over my exact reasoning as to WHY that occurred and HOW it could've been remedied in 2009.
But, rather than rewrite the same info I posted that addressed this subject, to whit:
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Yes, we would've been even more leaky in 2009, but you take your lumps when you see the obvious regression from starters, and you come back that much more seasoned, grizzled, and experienced in 2010.
Instead, Hurst & Williford (no, I don't think he should've been redshirted when it was obvious Hitt wasn't up to snuff, and hadn't been since midway through 2008, to be honest) were not ready to come in for Blackwell, and Miles knew it, and even more mind-bogglingly than that decision in 2009, he compounded the mistake by putting T-Bob out there and preventing the interior of the OL from gelling with its most talented 3 kids out there at the same time.
Posted on 3/17/11 at 11:23 am to GFunk
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Hebert playing was not just Studrawa's decision. Miles played a heavy hand in it. I'll leave it there.
Didn't know Miles was messing with our OLINE. I always thought Josh D should have not played his first year as a starter, he was under sized and and just plain not good. This year he is ready.
Posted on 3/17/11 at 12:21 pm to Prominentwon
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fans overreacting to lack of depth and inexperience on the line,
depth? maybe
inexperience? didn't we return 3 starters and the 4th was our groomed successor? that's 4/5 guys
Posted on 3/17/11 at 3:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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depth? maybe
inexperience? didn't we return 3 starters and the 4th was our groomed successor? that's 4/5 guys
That's why LSU's had 3 different 1,000 yard rushers in 4 seasons, since Studs has been hear.
This post was edited on 3/17/11 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 3/17/11 at 3:14 pm to Prominentwon
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2,414 yards rushing and a panicky QB. 1,000 yard rusher.
2k + rushing yards knowing we couldn't throw is pretty damn impressive.
Posted on 3/17/11 at 3:19 pm to slackster
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Again, are you kidding me? One DT, a Top 5 pick this year, manhandled LSU's line and EVERY other line he faced this year. The great OL at Alabama got handled by him. The studs at Arkansas got mauled as well. Sometimes your spite for players/coaches is fricking disgusting.
That's all he has apparently. He's gotta knock it even when the facts are right in his face.
Posted on 3/17/11 at 3:22 pm to Maximus
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will Josh D and T Bob be grandfathered into more PT than they deserve again? Reading that the line will be a strength in the spring is hardly an accomplishment. Lets see if they can even slow top DTs path to the QB by maybe 0.1 second this year in big games before we crown Stud.
Who other than Fairley, who might be the #1 pick in the draft, consistently abused the entire offensive line?
Posted on 3/17/11 at 4:25 pm to Suntiger
quote:this a joke?
Also, don't forget that coach Studrawa is a really good recruiter as well.
Posted on 3/17/11 at 4:28 pm to Hitchcock
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That's why LSU's had 3 different 1,000 yard rushers in 4 seasons, since Studs has been hear.
thats not really impressive considering how our offense is built.
however the line was better this past year. A better RB would have made our line look much better, for instance Ware in the bowl game. And Ford most times he touched the ball.
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