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re: Former LSU basketball standout Randy Livingston joining Tigers' coaching staff

Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by broadcaster
Maurepas
Member since Sep 2013
2685 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:40 pm to
All this negative feedback about the Livingston hire has to come from kids that play Xbox and PlayStationand can't go back to see what his overall rating was as a player or its coming from people that know nothing about Randy Livingston. I guess that's what some people don't understand Livingston could barely run his knees were blown out so bad but yet he still made it 3 to 5 years playing in the NBA because of how smart he was as a basketball player
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18133 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:45 pm to
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Good. Randy knows basketball.


So did Musselman and so does Suhr, but I don't think Johnny gives them much input.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:17 pm to
" can't go back to see what he is overall rating as a player"

Co-high school player of the year two years running coming out of high school. As knowledgeable as a basketball player as you could find at his time.

What that translates into as a coach, we will have to wait to see. The pissing and moaning over an assistant coach who played his college ball at LSU is ridiculous , but not surprising.
Posted by gemlsu
Member since Sep 2003
2350 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:17 pm to
Agree. He had an ex nba coach on his staff and refused to let him do any real coaching. There are many high school coaches in this state who could circles around JJ. Please recruit and go away.
Posted by TigerBR1111
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
6553 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:25 pm to
Man you are one negative loser
Posted by Mr Eko
Member since Jan 2011
115 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

All this negative feedback about the Livingston hire has to come from kids that play Xbox and PlayStationand can't go back to see what his overall rating was as a player or its coming from people that know nothing about Randy Livingston. I guess that's what some people don't understand Livingston could barely run his knees were blown out so bad but yet he still made it 3 to 5 years playing in the NBA because of how smart he was as a basketball player


What I have learned from this thread is that people have an emotional attachment to one of the most highly recruited players ever from Louisiana. Yes, I am old enough to remember him and his Newman days. However, just because he was a good player does not mean a damn thing as far him being a good coach. I have personally seen multiple former professional players that were horrible coaches at the high school level.

If everyone would take the purple and gold glasses off and remove your personal attachment to Randy Livingston, you would realize that this is not a good hire. If this was some random white guy who was a former player at Ole Miss (and a “coach on the court”) this board would be flipping out. Listen, I get it. This is like Leonard Fournette coming home and coaching LSU one day. People would be all warm and fuzzy on the inside just because the hero is back home.

However, I look at things differently because I am one of the few that still want to see the program succeed under Johnny or whoever the hell is the coach. The program isn’t dead yet but we are about one year away from that point. We still have some good talent but we have no recruits and no more David Patrick. We have never been a “well-coached” team under Johnny even though two years ago we had a former NBA head coach. This program needs need a defensive minded assistant that can cover up Johnny’s weaknesses. Also we still need a recruiter to replace David Patrick. This hire provides us neither. Maybe in the long run Randy could be either one of those guys but we don’t have time on our side. Johnny has to win today or him and Randy are gone.
Posted by camplsu
Section 210
Member since Feb 2007
1527 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:34 pm to
You must have never read my posts about LSU Basketball before, friend. I have been crushed on this website for defending Johnny. But nice way to come at me with some substance.
Posted by TigerBR1111
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
6553 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:37 pm to
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If everyone would take the purple and gold glasses off and remove your personal attachment to Randy Livingston, you would realize that this is not a good hire.


And you KNOW this because? You don't know whether this a good hire or not at this point. So what color are your glasses?
Posted by TigerBR1111
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
6553 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:40 pm to
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I have been crushed on this website for defending Johnny.


Well for that you should be crushed. That's indefensible.
Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
Picayune MS
Member since Sep 2014
5666 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:47 pm to
I saw him play in Gernon Brown against college aged players,you could tell he was going to be a special player.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:52 pm to
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you would realize that this is not a good hire.


And you know this how? We are talking about coach who will sit two or three chairs down the bench. This is not going to decide the LSU basketball season.

Take a chill pill.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40049 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 5:41 pm to
I played high school basketball (not saying much, just putting it into context). I am older than Randy but played some pickup ball with him. As good as he was as a player, I was most impressed how he could direct other teammates on the floor. He knew everything that was going on on the court and where everybody should be. He was always a step ahead. I think that type of knowledge and vision of the game can only help.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158753 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 5:49 pm to
if anything you being so hopeless towards the program has made me even more hopeless
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10877 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 5:50 pm to
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quote:his one year on the sidelines.
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Spoken like a true D-bag!
Spoken like a "Realist" that doesn't have their head buried in the sand.

The PMAC is going to be as empty as it's ever been this season.

Most of us LSU Alums/Fans know exactly what we have in JJ and will no longer be supporting the rank mediocrity that is LSU Basketball. (Both Men's and Women's)

The LSUAD needs to be taught a lesson in what happens when you insult the Fan Base by continuing to employ incompetent head coaches.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23020 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:13 pm to
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Two years ago we had a decent assistant coaching staff with David Patrick and Eric Musselman. Now we have Brendan Suhr and Randy Livingston.... This is a bad staff and there is no other way to say it.

I loved Randy as a player but the guy has had only one stop as a D-League coach. Which was 4 years ago. This looks like Johnny couldn't find anyone


Robert Kirby, Randy Livingston, and Brendan Suhr is a very solid coaching staff. You have no clue what you're talking about.
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
21244 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:17 pm to
One of the best passers I have ever seen.

Welcome home, Randy!

Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:18 pm to
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Spoken like a "Realist" that doesn't have their head buried in the sand.

Even if JJ is fired, any replacement would be an idiot not to want Livingston to remain on staff if he wants to be.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28714 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 8:25 pm to
Bob Huggins, John Calipari, Bruce Pearl, Kevin Stallings, I can go on.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26233 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 9:16 pm to
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The LSUAD needs to be taught a lesson in what happens when you insult the Fan Base by continuing to employ incompetent head coaches.


"Cutting off the nose to spite the face" is an expression used to describe a needlessly self-destructive over-reaction to a problem: "Don't cut off your nose to spite your face" is a warning against acting out of pique, or against pursuing revenge in a way that would damage oneself more than the object of one's anger.

I'm no Johnny Jones fan, but IMO the solution should never be "I'm gonna teach them a lesson and quit supporting the team that I support."

Just like any coach of a major program at LSU, JJ will be judged over time, and will either keep or lose his job based on the consistent results or lack thereof. JJ knows better than anyone that the clock is ticking and results are expected soon.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 9:21 pm
Posted by LuckyTiger57
Member since Dec 2015
1241 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 9:22 pm to
Well said!
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