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re: Final Miles analysis: Pumpers vs Negatigers
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:18 pm to tiger81
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:18 pm to tiger81
The Tennessee game in '05 was game 2 of his LSU tenure and post-Katrina. The team ran out of gas and got beat. How that represents him as a coach is beyond me. '05 showed me that LSU had probably found the second diamond in the rough.
Things went well after that, IMO, until Perrilloux got kicked off the team and '08 happened.
Let'a not forget that game 4 of Saban'a first season was a home loss to UAB. Granted, we sucked hard in '99, but UAB?!? Also, don't forget his first season at Bama - lost to ULM.
The real answer is Ole Miss '09. That is the first time he really came into serious question on a large scale. There were hints before this, but that game was the beginning of the end.
There have been some good and great points along the way. The '11 season was as awesome a season as any until 1/9/12.
In the end, 5 in a row to Saban finished him IMO.
Saban is a once in a generation coach. Miles was competing against his ghost initially and then directly.
Things went well after that, IMO, until Perrilloux got kicked off the team and '08 happened.
Let'a not forget that game 4 of Saban'a first season was a home loss to UAB. Granted, we sucked hard in '99, but UAB?!? Also, don't forget his first season at Bama - lost to ULM.
The real answer is Ole Miss '09. That is the first time he really came into serious question on a large scale. There were hints before this, but that game was the beginning of the end.
There have been some good and great points along the way. The '11 season was as awesome a season as any until 1/9/12.
In the end, 5 in a row to Saban finished him IMO.
Saban is a once in a generation coach. Miles was competing against his ghost initially and then directly.
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:18 pm to Big Scrub TX
What always chapped my arse about the negative folks was the lengths they would go to shite on the accomplishments through basically the first 6 years. It was like they were incapable of laying out reasons he needed to go without acknowledging how wildly successful he was for a while.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:19 pm to Big Scrub TX
As a NEGATIGER since 2005, a person cannot now claim to be right. The NEGATIGERS ate crow for most of TEN YEARS!!! It does not matter what you think about 2007, he has the crystal ball !
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:20 pm to Big Scrub TX
Great summary. Well done.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:20 pm to Big Scrub TX
It was 2 years in loaded with future nfl players. My god the ignorance of how loaded the first 3 teams of Saban's tenure was is mind blowing.
If you think our 2001 team wasnt loaded you need to go back and look at how many nfl players were on that roster.
Also the west sucked balls. The 2nd place west team was 7-5.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:23 pm to TriumphTiger
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The Tennessee game in '05 was game 2 of his LSU tenure and post-Katrina. The team ran out of gas and got beat. How that represents him as a coach is beyond me. '05 showed me that LSU had probably found the second diamond in the rough.
It wasn't the result, it was the details. That's the part that pumpers perpetually never understood.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:24 pm to slackster
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What always chapped my arse about the negative folks was the lengths they would go to shite on the accomplishments through basically the first 6 years. It was like they were incapable of laying out reasons he needed to go without acknowledging how wildly successful he was for a while.
That's fair.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:25 pm to tiger81
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The NEGATIGERS started seriously calling for the firing of Les Miles after the Tennessee game in 2005. I remember it well. Les went on to win one national title, and many people would say two. The NEGATIGERS were definitely WRO
Actually no one would say he went on to win two. He lost one in a season that could have cemented LSU as one of the best teams of all time. And lost it in embarrassing fashion at that
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:25 pm to Big Scrub TX
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wasn't the result, it was the details. That's the part that pumpers perpetually never understood.
The results are all that matters. Your aesthetics be damned.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:25 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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If you think our 2001 team wasnt loaded you need to go back and look at how many nfl players were on that roster.
Not on the lines.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:26 pm to GRTiger
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Also, a final analysis of pumpers and negatigers by an admitted member of one or the other is about as worthless as a velvet painting of a whale and dolphin getting it on.
So, you are alleging there is some magical middle of folks who are perfectly objective, neither pumpers nor negatigers?
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:28 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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The results are all that matters. Your aesthetics be damned.
That's where you're wrong. A focus on results - rather than inputs and decision-making - will lose out in the long run...just how we've seen it play out. You can only rely on luck for so long.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:28 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Final Miles analysis: Pumpers vs Negatigers
Who gives a shite...Les and Cam are gone and nearly everyone agrees it should have happened. Let's put this nonsense to bed.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:28 pm to LATigerBoss
You're wrong. If it was luck, he would not have gone 13-0 and been in natty four years later! WAKE UP!
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:28 pm to Big Scrub TX
his want to continue coaching should reveal how other schools think of GoodOleLess. I hope where ever he coaches there all betting lines on the games. 
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:28 pm to slackster
Well when we would gripe about how we played in wins, knowing the passing game, poor clock management, refusal to put teams away, would hurt us in tougher games. The positigers would come in and shite all over any discussion we were having on how to IMPROVE (most fans want this AND coaches) by saying nothing pleases y'all a win is a win. Hey look if y'all want to be simpletons that's fine but some of us enjoy talking about how to get better.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:28 pm to Big Scrub TX
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That's fair.
Apparently not based on the downvotes.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:30 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Not on the lines.
Youre about to be destroyed.
Chad Lavalais
Howard green
Jarvis green
Kendrick Allen
Marquise hill
Marcus spears
Stephen peterman
Ben wilkerson
Rodney reed
Please go on about how our lines werent talented in 2001
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:31 pm to Rickdaddy4188
You're wrong. An AP writer in New Mexico (no dog in the fight) declared LSU the national champions before the natty was played. He voted that way after the game, also. HE WAS RIGHT!!
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:31 pm to Big Scrub TX
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That's where you're wrong. A focus on results - rather than inputs and decision-making - will lose out in the long run...just how we've seen it play out. You can only rely on luck for so long.
No it wont. If miles had won 10 games in 2014 &2015 he is still the coach.
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