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re: Explanation of last 30 seconds of 1st half?

Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:29 am to
Posted by Teufelhunden
Galvez, LA
Member since Feb 2005
5576 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:29 am to
Try to get it to mid field and throw up a prayer. Everyone expects the players to never quit, same should be true for the coaching.
Posted by cheapseat
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2004
6288 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:40 am to
I think we have the best coach available.but what if the play had worked and the player was tackled within scoring range. I didnt understand that at all.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29263 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:49 am to
give your team a chance to win the game. letting 27 seconds bleed off for no reason is just irresponsible.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24268 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:05 am to
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Forced punt, run a play if put in good position attack if not don't. It happens in every football game in America in first half. Only this group of imbeciles makes more of it than is


You came up with this Shakespearean dandy of a sentence and you're calling other people imbeciles?

When other teams run out the clock, they usually aren't down 14 at home and they usually don't have a receiver with one of the best ypc averages in the nation. If we would've gotten a few points there, it would have come in handy at the end of the game. It's not like we were inside the 10 where a safety could happen. You send Dural, Dupre or whoever down the field and give him one option and throw it long. Again, we were down 14 at home and State was receiving the ball at the start of the 2nd half. You can't play scared in Death Valley. That's supposed to be our house.



Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21496 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:58 am to
Sometimes he has to ask for the play twice and this takes time.
Posted by lsufanz
NOLA
Member since Dec 2008
4726 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 11:54 am to
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Or maybe the play never develops, Jennings gets sacked and fumbles and it gets returned for a score...

Or maybe the pass he's intercepted and returned for a score...

Or maybe the running back fumbles the ball, it's recovered and returned for a score....

Who knows

You pumpers are embarrassing



If this is the mentality, as embarrassing as it may be on one's home field, then why in the hell do you take a friggin' timeout at all????? I don't typically bash the coaching staff, but seriously, there's no rational way of defending this decision, or lack thereof.
Posted by Brbengal
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
1368 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:11 pm to
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I don't like the idea of giving up on the half.


I think they were shocked and dumbfounded at what had just transpired in the 1st half.

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:16 pm to
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If this is the mentality, as embarrassing as it may be on one's home field, then why in the hell do you take a friggin' timeout at all????? I don't typically bash the coaching staff, but seriously, there's no rational way of defending this decision, or lack thereof.




I didn't see it as that complicated of a situation. MSU had all their time outs, LSU didn't want them to get the ball back. So they stop the clock with 3 seconds left to run a play that is very safe but may break for a big score.

Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24268 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:31 pm to
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I didn't see it as that complicated of a situation. MSU had all their time outs, LSU didn't want them to get the ball back. So they stop the clock with 3 seconds left to run a play that is very safe but may break for a big score.


That's the problem. We were worried about them getting the ball back when it was our turn on offense and we were already down 14. Plus we knew they were getting the ball back after half.

How good have we looked running screens this year? I think a screen has a higher chance of disaster in that situation than some other plays (or a bomb). I've seen a number of screens get picked or RBs fumble after getting nailed because the blockers didn't set it up properly and the RB turns around to get surprised.

If we would have gone long and they would have picked the pass, it would have been like a punt and they wouldn't have had much time. But we haven't had a problem with throwing picks on bombs this year.
This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 12:32 pm
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 1:11 pm to
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seriously would like to know what the thought process was there

We should all be used to the Les Miles thought process by now. Would have made sense to run as many plays as possible to possibly get a score and catch up, but quitter wanted to go ahead and quit. With 2 seconds left he realized "hey I could've run a couple of plays and not looked so stupid! Oh hell, might as well give it one more try to make it look like I care. TIME OUT!!"
Posted by GonePecan
Southeast of disorder
Member since Feb 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 1:19 pm to
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I didn't see it as that complicated of a situation. MSU had all their time outs, LSU didn't want them to get the ball back. So they stop the clock with 3 seconds left to run a play that is very safe but may break for a big score.

But we called a time out before they even punted.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 1:22 pm to
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I didn't see it as that complicated of a situation. MSU had all their time outs, LSU didn't want them to get the ball back. So they stop the clock with 3 seconds left to run a play that is very safe but may break for a big score.


So why stop the clock at all if you're afraid of them getting the ball back?

Or, why not call the play without the timeout?

The timeout makes no sense.

None.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 1:25 pm to
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So why stop the clock at all if you're afraid of them getting the ball back?


To give you an opportunity to run one play?

quote:

Or, why not call the play without the timeout?



Who knows? Would you be less upset if they snapped the ball to run a screen with 0:03 and didn't call a TO?

quote:

The timeout makes no sense.

None.


Meh. While I agree it was a rather futile attempt...it wasn't entirely pointless.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 1:39 pm to
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Meh. While I agree it was a rather futile attempt...it wasn't entirely pointless.

It pretty much was. If you want to call one more play, even if it's just a screen pass - especially if it's just a screen pass - you'd want enough time to be able to call a TO if the play makes it into FG range, but not so much time that gives the other team an opportunity to score. 10-15 seconds would've at least made some sense.
Posted by GonePecan
Southeast of disorder
Member since Feb 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 1:41 pm to
Any of you who can't understand it was the old ' 80 yard screen to a running back for a score with no time left against 8 deep' don't understand Les Miles.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34890 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 1:43 pm to
Oh frick you for linking that play, I hope you stub your toe getting into bed tonight you bitch
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 1:44 pm to
we saw what we can do with 20 seconds left at the end of game.

imagine what would happen with 30 seconds before half.
Posted by lsufanz
NOLA
Member since Dec 2008
4726 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:00 pm to
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I didn't see it as that complicated of a situation. MSU had all their time outs, LSU didn't want them to get the ball back. So they stop the clock with 3 seconds left to run a play that is very safe but may break for a big score


No offense, but I wouldn't describe this as a rational explanation. In this situation, the team with the ball typically decides to either utilize the remaining time to get in a position to score or play ultra conservative, take a knee and get into the locker room to prepare for the second half. Neither of these would have surprised me. Given the fact that we were behind and kicking the ball away to start the second half, I thought maybe a pass or two to even attempt a FG might be in order, but alas...

To think they used to refer to CLM as the Riverboat Gambler.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:01 pm to
Vintage CLM clock "management".
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:23 pm to
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To think they used to refer to CLM as the Riverboat Gambler.


That was Tommy Tubberville...

Look, I'm not saying it was the best course of action but I get the purpose of the safe play with 3 seconds.
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