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re: Explain the negatives of JJ getting 5-6 wildcat/option snaps
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:10 pm to magildachunks
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:10 pm to magildachunks
quote:This, what the hell is wrong with Lee just handing the ball off to Ware/Ford/Blue.
We don't need a wildcat
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Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:10 pm to LSUAlum2001
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RP was a much bigger passing threat than JJ and he hardly threw a pass until the SECCG.
yea, jefferson isnt in the same stratosphere as perrilloux, either running or passing
i think people are greatly overestimating the caliber of playing we're talking about instituting into the offense
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:10 pm to Elleshoe
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against nobody defenses and so far... still have 8 to go.
Wildcat <<<<<< pro style. that's why it's not used against pro defenses.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:11 pm to Elleshoe
I think JJ in the game = Run play. Pretty easy to defend when you know it's coming
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:11 pm to Elleshoe
1) takes away practice reps from the primary offense
2) breaks the rhythm of the starting QB
3) takes rushing attempts away from running backs that are much more talented running the ball than JJ
4) takes away passing attempts from the starting QB who has proven to be a much more effective thrower
5) takes away potential reps from the backup QB that will be the starter next season
6) running JJ in to trigger the "wildcat" actually prevents us from using a "wildcat" approach...wildcat is run with a player that breaks the huddle from a different position and then moves in to take the snap...preventing the defense from adjusting
I am getting tired of typing...
2) breaks the rhythm of the starting QB
3) takes rushing attempts away from running backs that are much more talented running the ball than JJ
4) takes away passing attempts from the starting QB who has proven to be a much more effective thrower
5) takes away potential reps from the backup QB that will be the starter next season
6) running JJ in to trigger the "wildcat" actually prevents us from using a "wildcat" approach...wildcat is run with a player that breaks the huddle from a different position and then moves in to take the snap...preventing the defense from adjusting
I am getting tired of typing...
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:11 pm to LSUAlum2001
quote:
RP was a much bigger passing threat than JJ
He was a better runner too
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:11 pm to magildachunks
people having been stroking themselves over the thought of a wild tiger for years now, youre not going to change many minds on whether it's needed or not
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:12 pm to southernelite
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This, what the hell is wrong with Lee just handing the ball off to Ware/Ford/Blue.
I'm just not sure running right into the teeth of the Bama D is gonna work. I hope it does. Either way, JJ is going to get some playing time. At least its fun to talk about how and in what situations its going to happen.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:12 pm to BayouBengals03
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RP was a much bigger passing threat than JJ and he hardly threw a pass until the SECCG.
Have you seen JJ this year?
And it won't matter how big of a passing threat he is. He won't be in there to pass. And the defense will know it.
So when the occasion arises for Jefferson to throw the ball, receivers will be wide open (like they were for Perrilloux).
PREACH
tards can't comprehend this.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:12 pm to TigerBait1127
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It takes the ball out of lee's hands and takes Carries from ware and ford.
This. JJ averaged about 9 carries for game and 2.5-3 ypc. All of our RBs are a better option to run the football than JJ.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:13 pm to Elleshoe
The day I see Tom Brady and Peyton Manning come out of the game for a "running QB" by the goal line I'll start listening to your argument.
Jarrett Lee is not Brady or Manning, but the point is that a running qb ain't everything. How can you say we can't beat Bama running this offense? We beat them last year with a total crap offense.
Jarrett Lee is not Brady or Manning, but the point is that a running qb ain't everything. How can you say we can't beat Bama running this offense? We beat them last year with a total crap offense.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:13 pm to ShermanTxTiger
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I think JJ in the game = Run play. Pretty easy to defend when you know it's coming
The zone read is never an easy play to defend, especially with a quarterback like Jefferson who tends to always fall forward for extra yardage.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:13 pm to hg
quote:
quote:
RP was a much bigger passing threat than JJ and he hardly threw a pass until the SECCG.
Have you seen JJ this year?
And it won't matter how big of a passing threat he is. He won't be in there to pass. And the defense will know it.
So when the occasion arises for Jefferson to throw the ball, receivers will be wide open (like they were for Perrilloux).
PREACH
tards can't comprehend this.
:kige:
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:13 pm to Housplants
quote:
1) takes away practice reps from the primary offense
2) breaks the rhythm of the starting QB
3) takes rushing attempts away from running backs that are much more talented running the ball than JJ
4) takes away passing attempts from the starting QB who has proven to be a much more effective thrower
5) takes away potential reps from the backup QB that will be the starter next season
6) running JJ in to trigger the "wildcat" actually prevents us from using a "wildcat" approach...wildcat is run with a player that breaks the huddle from a different position and then moves in to take the snap...preventing the defense from adjusting
I am getting tired of typing...
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:13 pm to BayouBengals03
Lee is the best pass option.
Ware and Ford are the best run option.
There you go. Best pass/run option for the team.
Seriously. What works right now is the play action pass. Lee throws it the best. What do I want to do? go back to Jefferson in the shotgun with a read/react fake and then bad passes afterwards. Cmon people haven't you seen enough in the first four games to see how much better the offense is without JJ?
Ware and Ford are the best run option.
There you go. Best pass/run option for the team.
Seriously. What works right now is the play action pass. Lee throws it the best. What do I want to do? go back to Jefferson in the shotgun with a read/react fake and then bad passes afterwards. Cmon people haven't you seen enough in the first four games to see how much better the offense is without JJ?
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:14 pm to Elleshoe
So, your okay with throwing 5-6 snaps away? You're okay with giving away 2-3 possessions a game, just to give JJ some snaps? Because that's what you'll be doing. If CLM wants to run the wildcat, he needs to run it with RS or Ware. They can actually run the ball. The option? WTF good is the option if every time JJ steps on the field, the other team knows it.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:14 pm to Elleshoe
No... you explain the positives of inserting JJ and another style of play in an offense that is working better thanit has in years as we enter SEC play and when JJ hasn't practiced since the games began.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:14 pm to LSUAlum2001
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JJ averaged about 9 carries for game and 2.5-3 ypc
That's counting sack yardage.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:14 pm to hg
quote:
And it won't matter how big of a passing threat he is. He won't be in there to pass. And the defense will know it. So when the occasion arises for Jefferson to throw the ball, receivers will be wide open (like they were for Perrilloux).
Where were these wide open WRs last year?
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:14 pm to southernelite
It will keep a defense on its heals like bama.
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