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Posted on 11/29/15 at 10:46 am to fightingtiger2335
8-3
4th in the west.
I can't speak for you but at my house that's considered mediocre.
You drive a Ford Focus and wear a name tag to work.
It's ok for you to say that.
4th in the west.
I can't speak for you but at my house that's considered mediocre.
You drive a Ford Focus and wear a name tag to work.
It's ok for you to say that.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 10:52 am to KennabraTiger
Mediocre means not very good. If those programs are mediocre, you're pretty much saying the SEC is a bad conference save Bama and Florida. Do you actually believe that?
Anyhow, Alabama and Ohio State have Meyer and Saban, the guys who along with Carroll have been the best two coaches in college football over the last decade or so. So if you have a way to get either one of those, I'm fine with that. But is that what's actually on the table?
Ok, let's take for granted that something has to be done and the right move is to get rid of Les. Absolutely has to. Fine. Ok, then what?
The thing you're suggesting to do, at a major program replace a successful coach who isn't successful enough, has been tried many times before. From what I can recall it's only worked twice:
1. Tressel
2. Jimbo
So I have two questions
1. What gives you the confidence that we would pick the right guy, when Nebraska and Florida and USC and Texas and Miami and Tennessee and Michigan and Notre Dame and Washington and Auburn and on and on all picked the wrong guy.
2. Why would we make this pretty remarkable gamble now as opposed to say next year, given what we have coming back and coming in?
Anyhow, Alabama and Ohio State have Meyer and Saban, the guys who along with Carroll have been the best two coaches in college football over the last decade or so. So if you have a way to get either one of those, I'm fine with that. But is that what's actually on the table?
Ok, let's take for granted that something has to be done and the right move is to get rid of Les. Absolutely has to. Fine. Ok, then what?
The thing you're suggesting to do, at a major program replace a successful coach who isn't successful enough, has been tried many times before. From what I can recall it's only worked twice:
1. Tressel
2. Jimbo
So I have two questions
1. What gives you the confidence that we would pick the right guy, when Nebraska and Florida and USC and Texas and Miami and Tennessee and Michigan and Notre Dame and Washington and Auburn and on and on all picked the wrong guy.
2. Why would we make this pretty remarkable gamble now as opposed to say next year, given what we have coming back and coming in?
This post was edited on 11/29/15 at 10:54 am
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:04 am to longwayfromLA
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Mediocre means not very good. If those programs are mediocre, you're pretty much saying the SEC is a bad conference save Bama and Florida. Do you actually believe that?
Anyhow, Alabama and Ohio State have Meyer and Saban, the guys who along with Carroll yammer, yammer. So if you have a way to get either one of those, I'm fine with that. But is that what's actually on the table?
Ok, let's take for granted that something has to be done and the right move is to get rid of Les. Absolutely has to. Fine. Ok, then what?
....yammer, yammer....
So I have two questions
1. What gives you the confidence that we would pick the right guy, when Nebraska and Florida and yammer, yammer...
2. Why would we make this pretty remarkable gamble now as opposed to say next year, given what we have coming back and coming in?
You either have the balls to take the risk or you don't, and with the superior football talent LA produces annually coupled with the resources and will of the fans, we should...and however lamely, we apparently tried. But things obviously went awry in an attempt to oust Miles and this is the result.
This post was edited on 11/29/15 at 11:06 am
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:09 am to tiger88
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You either have the balls to take the risk or you don't, and with the superior football talent LA produces annually coupled with the resources and will of the fans, we should...and however lamely, tried
Yeah, that's not really an answer to those two questions. I'm saying fine, we want to make the change, but don't we have to do that knowing that the most likely outcome has proven to be that the hire will underperform his predecessor. In other words, we're pretty much rolling the dice against bad odds.
My question was why make that gamble this year given LSU would likely get it's 4th of 5th choice?
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:13 am to longwayfromLA
You can't do the same thing every year and expect different results. We've been here in the same situation the last four years. Some times you have to roll the dice. However I'm not for firing and flinging shite against the wall and seeing what sticks but you've got to have a short list. If you can get one pull the trigger.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:14 am to longwayfromLA
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knowing that the most likely outcome has proven to be that the hire will underperform his predecessor. In other words, we're pretty much rolling the dice against bad odds.
You DON'T know what the outcome will be, nor can you even apply a probability to it.
So, again, you either take the risk or you don't.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:15 am to longwayfromLA
You don't take that gamble.
There's a guy or two out there currently that would be upgrade from les miles.
They weren't available to LSU did the right thing.
From this point forward very clear narrative and discussion needs to take place about this point forward with philosophy and coaching
There's a guy or two out there currently that would be upgrade from les miles.
They weren't available to LSU did the right thing.
From this point forward very clear narrative and discussion needs to take place about this point forward with philosophy and coaching
Posted on 11/29/15 at 12:11 pm to tiger88
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You DON'T know what the outcome will be, nor can you even apply a probability to it.
You're correct, I don't know. Neither do you btw…
As for through a probability behind. Why on earth would you not consider the outcomes for the many other recent teams facing the same situation? That's nonsense. Do you really believe studying the past has no decision making value here, or do you just really not like the obvious direction it provides?
Posted on 11/29/15 at 12:20 pm to longwayfromLA
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You're correct, I don't know. Neither do you btw…
But I am willing to take the risk.
See, it's not hard to understand.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 12:40 pm to tiger88
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But I am willing to take the risk.
See, it's not hard to understand.
As I said a couple of posts back it would be a gamble against long odds. You would take a gamble against those long odds, I would not. Not hard to understand at all.
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