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ESPN's Best LSU Football Teams of All Time
Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:20 am
Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:20 am
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I noticed that ESPN gives LSU credit for 7 National Championships. Why doesn't LSU claim these? Is it because of the years they were won (too long ago) or who crowned them champs (not Associated Press)? Just curious. I'm not saying LSU should claim them, but seeing them on ESPN caught me by surprise.
Championship Season According to this ESPN list: 1908, 1935, 1936, 1958, 1962, 2003, 2007
I noticed that ESPN gives LSU credit for 7 National Championships. Why doesn't LSU claim these? Is it because of the years they were won (too long ago) or who crowned them champs (not Associated Press)? Just curious. I'm not saying LSU should claim them, but seeing them on ESPN caught me by surprise.
Championship Season According to this ESPN list: 1908, 1935, 1936, 1958, 1962, 2003, 2007
Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:23 am to Awesome All Day
I don't know why we don't claim 1908. The others are meh. Oe Miss likes to claim 1962, too. Goofy kids.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:26 am to Awesome All Day
58,03,and 07 are legit
Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:29 am to Awesome All Day
quote:we are not Alabama, who claims some really ridiculous one.
Why doesn't LSU claim these?
Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:33 am to eelsuee
If USC claims 2003, we should be able to claim a split in 2011
Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:35 am to ForeverEllisHugh
agree 2011, undefeated till the terror show...but still has to rank up there?
Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:35 am to ForeverEllisHugh
We didn't win the AP title in 2011. So we have literally no claim.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:38 am to KingBeingking
Ironically, the USC fiasco probably hurt us in 2011. After that all the polls fell in line with the BCS. If you compare to the two seasons, it's hard to put one of those teams over the other.
Only losses to each other, each win in the other's home state.
Only losses to each other, each win in the other's home state.
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:38 am to KingBeingking
with u King, but when we talk about best LSU seasons imho, it rates well
Posted on 4/4/17 at 12:01 pm to Awesome All Day
So you gonna list how they ranked the teams or am I just supposed to imagine it myself?
Posted on 4/4/17 at 12:12 pm to Awesome All Day
1961 Rife with future NFL starters-- plenty shutouts.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 12:50 pm to Tarpon08
I attached a link. You need me to hold you hand while you click on it?
Posted on 4/4/17 at 12:58 pm to Awesome All Day
Not all of us pay an Insiders Subscription to ESPN Mr. Sir
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 4/4/17 at 1:50 pm to Awesome All Day
quote:
1962,
1962??? Somebody's formula came up with the Tigers as the NC. I was in school then. Tied by Rice and lost to Ole Miss - who finished the season undefeated. No way were we #1.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:40 pm to Awesome All Day
We aren't Ole Miss or Alabama who claim titles written on the back of napkins. I do believe we should claim 1908, but that is the only one.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:53 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
quote:
Only losses to each other, each in the other's home state.
You have the states mixed up. Each lost in their own home state.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:19 pm to eelsuee
quote:
we are not Alabama, who claims some really ridiculous one.
There's not a football fan in the country who doesn't think that Alabama isn't ahead of LSU in any listing of the all-time best college football programs. Maybe we SHOULD be like Alabama and at least claim a national title (1908) that the entire world wants to give us......even if we're too stupid to take it.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:41 pm to Tarpon08
Here you go suga: (Tarpon08)
Ranking the all-time best LSU Tigers teams
Les Miles and the 2007 LSU Tigers won the BCS title thanks to some huge comebacks.
This season will mark the 10th anniversary of the last LSU football team to win a national championship.
So where does that 2007 squad place among the greatest LSU teams of all time?
Methodology
To find out, I set up a grading system that measures many factors of all of LSU's 14 teams that won a national championship and/or a conference championship.
The system uses a weighted bell curve that places a heavy emphasis on winning national championships, but also gives significant credit for conference record, wins against ranked opponents and having a large number of players on the first-team All-American or first-team all-conference teams. It also awards extra value for high rankings in sports-reference.com's Simple Rating System (SRS) and Strength of Schedule (SOS) metrics. (Note: The 1896 Tigers won the SIAA championship but are not included in this analysis due to not having a SRS or SOS rating for that season.)
This system was designed to allow teams from any era to be able to compete on a level field with teams from other eras. The idea here is that the Bernie Moore, Paul Dietzel or Charlie McClendon championship teams should not be punished for playing in eras that had fewer games per season, but rather should be measured on the relative strength of their particular accomplishments.
The system was also adjusted to a 0-100 point scale, with 100 being the best ranking a team could achieve.
Now that we have the preliminaries out of the way, let's take a look at the top five teams in LSU history.
1. Season: 1958
83.8 points (11-0, national and SEC champions)
Top players: Billy Cannon, Max Fugler, Johnny Robinson, Warren Rabb
This was the first LSU team in the modern era to win 10 or more games and is still the only Tigers modern era team to go undefeated. Dietzel's creative three-platoon system got the most out of this team's incredible array of talent that included four first-team All-SEC players, a notable achievement in an era where all-conference teams selected only 11 players. The best of that bunch would have to be Cannon, whom the LSU media guide calls "the greatest football player to ever don the Purple and Gold." This club held all but one opponent to a single-digit scoring total and defeated Clemson 7-0 to give LSU its first Sugar Bowl victory.
2. Season: 2011
80.6 points (13-1, SEC champion)
Top players: Will Blackwell, Morris Claiborne, Tyrann Mathieu, Sam Montgomery, Brad Wing
LSU's 2011 team had five first-team All-Americans, the highest total among the teams in this analysis. They posted a 24.3 SRS mark, which is the best in LSU team history. This team's schedule included nine games against ranked foes, another total that is tops on this list. Its eight wins against those ranked foes set an NCAA record. This Tigers squad also won a team-record 12 games by a double-digit point total. These achievements led to a BCS title game berth against Alabama. Had this Tigers team won that contest, it would have topped the 1958 squad for the No. 1 spot on this list.
3. Season: 1961
78.8 points (10-1, SEC champion)
Top players: Roy Winston, Wendell Harris, Jerry Stovall
Dietzel said this was the strongest team he ever coached and that certainly showed up on defense. The 1961 Tigers generated 32 turnovers and allowed only 57 points. They did this while facing the third toughest schedule in this group, as three of the team's 11 games occurred against ranked foes in an era when the Associated Press named only 10 teams to its weekly rankings.
4. Season: 1936
78.7 points (9-1-1, national and SEC champions)
Top players: Gus Tinsley, Moose Stewart, Wardell Leisk
The 1936 Tigers are the only LSU team to ever repeat as SEC champion. They led the nation in scoring with 295 points. Tinsley was the first LSU player to be a two-time consensus All-American. This club didn't lack for defensive prowess, as it allowed only 33 points during the regular season and had five shutouts. Add in this being the debut season for Mike The Tiger, and it made for a highly memorable campaign.
5. Season: 2007
77.9 points (12-2, national and SEC champions)
Top players: Glenn Dorsey, Ali Highsmith, Craig Steltz, Chevis Jackson
The 2007 Tigers made LSU the first two-time winner of the BCS Championship by beating Ohio State 38-24 in a game that saw the Tigers outscore the Buckeyes 31-0 in a 24-minute stretch. Their trip to the title game was arduous, as the Tigers had to notch two amazing fourth-quarter comebacks in victories over Florida and Auburn to earn a spot in the SEC championship game. Defensive lineman Glenn Dorsey had a season for the ages, as he won the Outland Trophy, Lombardi Award, Lott Trophy, Nagurski Trophy, SEC Defensive Player of the Year and consensus first-team All-American honors to become the most decorated defensive player in LSU history.
Now let's take a quick look at the teams rated 6-10:
6. Season: 1935
77.8 points (9-2, national and SEC champions)
Moore's initial season as head coach had a number of notable achievements, including LSU's first SEC title, its first Sugar Bowl berth and its initial consensus first-team All-American in Tinsley.
7. Season: 1962
74.7 points (9-1-1, national champions)
McClendon's LSU head coaching career got off to a great start, as his 1962 squad gave up only 34 points all season. A 13-0 win over No. 4 Texas was the Tigers first Cotton Bowl victory.
8. Season: 1970
73.8 points (9-3, SEC champion)
No team in this analysis had a more brutal schedule, as five of its last seven foes were ranked in the AP Top 20. This remains the only LSU team to sweep Auburn and Alabama on the road in the same season.
9. Season: 2003
72.8 points (13-1, national and SEC champions)
The combination of Matt Mauck throwing a team-record 28 touchdown passes and the defense leading the nation in points allowed per game (11.0) propelled this club to its first 13-win season and a BCS title game win over Oklahoma. Were it not for having the third most favorable schedule in this analysis, this team would have contended for one of the top spots.
10. Season: 2001
54.7 points (10-3, SEC champion)
This club came back from a 2-3 start in conference play to win the SEC West via a three-game win streak that included a division-clinching victory over Auburn. A fourth-quarter comeback win over Tennessee in the SEC title tilt and a dominant 47-34 Sugar Bowl victory over Illinois set the stage for greater things to come.
Finally, here are the teams that rated 11-14.
11. 1986, 54.0 points (9-3, SEC champion) 12. 1988, 50.8 points (8-4, SEC champion) 13. 1908, 38.4 points (10-0, national and SIAA champions) 14. 1932, 34.3 points (6-3-1, Southern champion)
Ranking the all-time best LSU Tigers teams
Les Miles and the 2007 LSU Tigers won the BCS title thanks to some huge comebacks.
This season will mark the 10th anniversary of the last LSU football team to win a national championship.
So where does that 2007 squad place among the greatest LSU teams of all time?
Methodology
To find out, I set up a grading system that measures many factors of all of LSU's 14 teams that won a national championship and/or a conference championship.
The system uses a weighted bell curve that places a heavy emphasis on winning national championships, but also gives significant credit for conference record, wins against ranked opponents and having a large number of players on the first-team All-American or first-team all-conference teams. It also awards extra value for high rankings in sports-reference.com's Simple Rating System (SRS) and Strength of Schedule (SOS) metrics. (Note: The 1896 Tigers won the SIAA championship but are not included in this analysis due to not having a SRS or SOS rating for that season.)
This system was designed to allow teams from any era to be able to compete on a level field with teams from other eras. The idea here is that the Bernie Moore, Paul Dietzel or Charlie McClendon championship teams should not be punished for playing in eras that had fewer games per season, but rather should be measured on the relative strength of their particular accomplishments.
The system was also adjusted to a 0-100 point scale, with 100 being the best ranking a team could achieve.
Now that we have the preliminaries out of the way, let's take a look at the top five teams in LSU history.
1. Season: 1958
83.8 points (11-0, national and SEC champions)
Top players: Billy Cannon, Max Fugler, Johnny Robinson, Warren Rabb
This was the first LSU team in the modern era to win 10 or more games and is still the only Tigers modern era team to go undefeated. Dietzel's creative three-platoon system got the most out of this team's incredible array of talent that included four first-team All-SEC players, a notable achievement in an era where all-conference teams selected only 11 players. The best of that bunch would have to be Cannon, whom the LSU media guide calls "the greatest football player to ever don the Purple and Gold." This club held all but one opponent to a single-digit scoring total and defeated Clemson 7-0 to give LSU its first Sugar Bowl victory.
2. Season: 2011
80.6 points (13-1, SEC champion)
Top players: Will Blackwell, Morris Claiborne, Tyrann Mathieu, Sam Montgomery, Brad Wing
LSU's 2011 team had five first-team All-Americans, the highest total among the teams in this analysis. They posted a 24.3 SRS mark, which is the best in LSU team history. This team's schedule included nine games against ranked foes, another total that is tops on this list. Its eight wins against those ranked foes set an NCAA record. This Tigers squad also won a team-record 12 games by a double-digit point total. These achievements led to a BCS title game berth against Alabama. Had this Tigers team won that contest, it would have topped the 1958 squad for the No. 1 spot on this list.
3. Season: 1961
78.8 points (10-1, SEC champion)
Top players: Roy Winston, Wendell Harris, Jerry Stovall
Dietzel said this was the strongest team he ever coached and that certainly showed up on defense. The 1961 Tigers generated 32 turnovers and allowed only 57 points. They did this while facing the third toughest schedule in this group, as three of the team's 11 games occurred against ranked foes in an era when the Associated Press named only 10 teams to its weekly rankings.
4. Season: 1936
78.7 points (9-1-1, national and SEC champions)
Top players: Gus Tinsley, Moose Stewart, Wardell Leisk
The 1936 Tigers are the only LSU team to ever repeat as SEC champion. They led the nation in scoring with 295 points. Tinsley was the first LSU player to be a two-time consensus All-American. This club didn't lack for defensive prowess, as it allowed only 33 points during the regular season and had five shutouts. Add in this being the debut season for Mike The Tiger, and it made for a highly memorable campaign.
5. Season: 2007
77.9 points (12-2, national and SEC champions)
Top players: Glenn Dorsey, Ali Highsmith, Craig Steltz, Chevis Jackson
The 2007 Tigers made LSU the first two-time winner of the BCS Championship by beating Ohio State 38-24 in a game that saw the Tigers outscore the Buckeyes 31-0 in a 24-minute stretch. Their trip to the title game was arduous, as the Tigers had to notch two amazing fourth-quarter comebacks in victories over Florida and Auburn to earn a spot in the SEC championship game. Defensive lineman Glenn Dorsey had a season for the ages, as he won the Outland Trophy, Lombardi Award, Lott Trophy, Nagurski Trophy, SEC Defensive Player of the Year and consensus first-team All-American honors to become the most decorated defensive player in LSU history.
Now let's take a quick look at the teams rated 6-10:
6. Season: 1935
77.8 points (9-2, national and SEC champions)
Moore's initial season as head coach had a number of notable achievements, including LSU's first SEC title, its first Sugar Bowl berth and its initial consensus first-team All-American in Tinsley.
7. Season: 1962
74.7 points (9-1-1, national champions)
McClendon's LSU head coaching career got off to a great start, as his 1962 squad gave up only 34 points all season. A 13-0 win over No. 4 Texas was the Tigers first Cotton Bowl victory.
8. Season: 1970
73.8 points (9-3, SEC champion)
No team in this analysis had a more brutal schedule, as five of its last seven foes were ranked in the AP Top 20. This remains the only LSU team to sweep Auburn and Alabama on the road in the same season.
9. Season: 2003
72.8 points (13-1, national and SEC champions)
The combination of Matt Mauck throwing a team-record 28 touchdown passes and the defense leading the nation in points allowed per game (11.0) propelled this club to its first 13-win season and a BCS title game win over Oklahoma. Were it not for having the third most favorable schedule in this analysis, this team would have contended for one of the top spots.
10. Season: 2001
54.7 points (10-3, SEC champion)
This club came back from a 2-3 start in conference play to win the SEC West via a three-game win streak that included a division-clinching victory over Auburn. A fourth-quarter comeback win over Tennessee in the SEC title tilt and a dominant 47-34 Sugar Bowl victory over Illinois set the stage for greater things to come.
Finally, here are the teams that rated 11-14.
11. 1986, 54.0 points (9-3, SEC champion) 12. 1988, 50.8 points (8-4, SEC champion) 13. 1908, 38.4 points (10-0, national and SIAA champions) 14. 1932, 34.3 points (6-3-1, Southern champion)
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:23 pm to tigerburningbright75
Yep. Don't know why Lsu doesn't claim 1908 at least?
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:25 pm to Awesome All Day
Nice link to try and get us to subscribe to ESPN Insider. Not this fool.
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