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re: Eric Reid WTH dude (he's a kneeler)
Posted on 9/12/16 at 9:59 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 9/12/16 at 9:59 pm to lsufball19
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Honestly their main complaints come down to socioeconomic status more than anything
So how do you suggest we help building up the lesser parts of our community?
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:00 pm to Bmath
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Reading social media postings doesn't count. Get out in the community and work with "those people." Be a positive role model to kids that don't live in stable family units. It's easy to judge from afar.
As someone else said. Get off your fricking high horse. You have no clue what I have done and continue to do for people that truly want to be helped.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:01 pm to Bmath
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So how do you suggest we help building up the lesser parts of our community?
well for starters cut down on the percentage of single family homes would be a great start. too many kids are born without a prayer because they have no positive role models in their lives.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:03 pm to Bmath
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No, I'm fed up with the faux outrage that you internet badasses are expressing.
It's faux outrage because you say so? Internet badasses? Grow the frick up and quit being a hypocrite. If Kaepernick, Reid, and co. want to make political demonstrations on the sideline by deliberately drawing attention to themselves through declining to show a bare minimum of respect for the nation's symbols, then they can withstand any backlash they receive. It's really not complicated at all, but lots of people want to play dumb and portray them as some poor, courageous victims. You can agree with them or not, thats the nature of politics. If you have no problem with the players politically demonstrating on the field then by logical extension you should have no problem with the fans who reject their actions.
The faux outrage is on those who applaud their political demonstrations and then play dumb about those who show their displeasure.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:04 pm to lsufball19
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yeah a lot of people were 250 years ago
Actually the overwhelming majority of people didn't own slaves. People in the south were poor as frick.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:06 pm to Golfer
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As someone else said. Get off your fricking high horse. You have no clue what I have done and continue to do for people that truly want to be helped.
Watch your mouth. I'm trying to start a conversation, but you don't like me suggesting you do things that make you uncomfortable.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:07 pm to UnAnon
Really? Apparently you must have misunderstood, had it said that, we wouldn't be having this discussion now, would we?
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:09 pm to lsufball19
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well for starters cut down on the percentage of single family homes would be a great start. too many kids are born without a prayer because they have no positive role models in their lives.
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I'm serious. Join a program like this. Quit bitching, moaning, and rolling your eyes. Get out in YOUR community and help these kids. I'm not on a high horse, I'm just calling people out on their bullshite. Both sides are wasting time pointing fingers at each other.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:11 pm to Bmath
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but you don't like me suggesting you do things that make you uncomfortable.
No. I don't like you insinuating that I'm not doing anything for the needy.
I'm a CASA volunteer. And have been a big buddy volunteer in the past. I work the serving line at a local homeless shelter, and my family has donated more time and money to The Boys and Girls Clubs in our communities than I can even count.
And again. It starts with a strong family unit. Which is absent in the poor communities.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:14 pm to Bmath
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I'm serious. Join a program like this. Quit bitching, moaning, and rolling your eyes. Get out in YOUR community and help these kids. I'm not on a high horse, I'm just calling people out on their bullshite. Both sides are wasting time pointing fingers at each other.
I'm not bitching. They're blaming "white privilege" one their own problems instead of helping themselves. I think them disrespecting our country is out of line. And the very nature of my job is primarily helping people of lower socioeconomic status, so yeah.
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:16 pm to Golfer
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And again. It starts with a strong family unit. Which is absent in the poor communities.
Which is why I keep advocating mentoring. Kids in these communities just aren't getting the support at home.
I spent time in an inner city school last week, and it's just sad to see the attitude of many of the kids. It's pitiful and disgraceful. That's what I think the conversation needs to be about with those players.
Again, I don't agree with their stance. However, I think people can use it as a way to talk about how to help fix the real issues.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:17 pm to Bmath
But we're not the ones who create those unstable family units. White people are not responsible for crime in black communities. I had nothing to do with Eric Reid having a kid when he was in college and wasn't married. I'm not responsible for all the unmarried players at LSU and other colleges who have kids.
Start cleaning up your own neighborhoods, quit killing each other, quit having illegitimate kids, and you'll find more help. Until then, keep fooling yourself and accepting a salary if you think you are changing anything
Start cleaning up your own neighborhoods, quit killing each other, quit having illegitimate kids, and you'll find more help. Until then, keep fooling yourself and accepting a salary if you think you are changing anything
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:20 pm to Bmath
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Which is why I keep advocating mentoring. Kids in these communities just aren't getting the support at home.
Mentoring doesn't really help unless the family unit is supporting the kid's efforts.
Because once you leave at 5pm it's back to their same old shitty life with their parents not giving a frick.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:23 pm to Golfer
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Because once you leave at 5pm it's back to their same old shitty life with their parents not giving a frick.
There is a lot of truth here. It is incredibly frustrating. Meeting with parents is difficult because it can often be a very sensitive matter. No one wants to hear that they or their kids are "at risk" or "underprivileged."
Mentoring isn't perfect, but I truly believe that it is a piece of the puzzle.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:24 pm to Bmath
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Then what is everyone upset about the action? Why are people equating it to being disrespectful to the miliary?
I agree that it would make more sense to open up a dialog, but perhaps they see it as a way to bring awareness to something that is a very difficult subject in our country.
The problem is that CK started this as a disrespectful action to draw attention to a "plight" based on half truths and inaccurate points. However, in his actions and his statements, he has indeed shown disrespect to the flag and, in turn, the country and, in my opinion, the service members who give up their own rights during their service time for him to have the luxury of making his "statement". He takes the easy way out of making a popular statement instead of taking the time to recognize that there may be more to it than the lazy, convenient, politically popular talking points. And, besides standing, or sitting, to make his point, what else has he done prior to the damage control from this? This reeks of putting on a show for appearance sake without actually having to put himself out in any serious way. Oh, and taking an inflated paycheck and royalties from the people who he is insulting.
And for the people who point out him objecting to the words of the National Anthem, this was not one of the points that he has made but came after when people were looking for something more tangible to make a point on.
On the other side, those of us who disagree with this "statement" also have the luxury of voicing our opinion of his actions in whichever ways we choose to, be it to boycott the games, broadcasts, not purchasing merchandise, making statements against the disrespectful, etc...
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:25 pm to The Boat
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Where else are you going to get paid and have the same exposure for playing American football?
You didn't specify American football in your previous post. I assumed you were speaking about professional athletes in general.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:43 pm to Bmath
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I'm serious. Join a program like this. Quit bitching, moaning, and rolling your eyes. Get out in YOUR community and help these kids. I'm not on a high horse, I'm just calling people out on their bullshite. Both sides are wasting time pointing fingers at each other.
That's fine and all but how about you calling the people spreading the rhetoric out on their bullshite. We heard enough of that rhetoric all summer but have they done anything to teach their own children about respect for the police, to stay out of trouble/jail, etc...? Or are they just passing the responsibility off on another group because it is convenient and that they can avoid taking personal responsibility for their own actions (raising their children)? As others have said so many times, the teaching must start at home and be consistent for it to take hold for a community.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:47 pm to Bmath
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I'm not on a high horse, I'm just calling people out on their bullshite. Both sides are wasting time pointing fingers at each other.
Right, by getting on a discussion forum and telling people on one side of an issue they are expressing "faux outrage" and being "internet badasses" for expressing their thoughts on a deliberately provocative political demonstration. You really are the hero we need but don't deserve.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:50 pm to ChewyDante
You're not very good at this.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:15 am to Bmath
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You're not very good at this.
Go on, explain...
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