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Eliminate all BS games and expand the playoffs

Posted on 12/28/15 at 11:58 pm
Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
4608 posts
Posted on 12/28/15 at 11:58 pm
Force all teams to join a conference first and foremost. Just play conference games and make all conferences have a championship game for conferences that have separate divisions. The playoffs would all be meaningful bowl games hosted by the higher seed of the 2 teams. Designate the championship game each year to a predetermined location. Attendance would be up and more money to be made on the bowl games.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 12:19 am to
A. Wrong board

B. Playoffs are fricking stupid and a terrible way to choose a champion
This post was edited on 12/29/15 at 12:20 am
Posted by tjc9487
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2010
491 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 12:28 am to
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Playoffs are fricking stupid and a terrible way to choose a champion

What's a better way to crown a champion then? The old BCS way? Are you sane??
Posted by BulkLogan1
Gonzales
Member since Jan 2009
1150 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 12:45 am to
The BCS was the best system for awarding the most deserving team the national championship. Playoffs only give more teams a chance at winning. Playoffs are all about money.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 3:43 am to
yea, that should be done just for you. frick the players.

and, you're gonna have a lot of very good teams not going to bowls yet have some shitty small conference teams making the playoffs. for example, only bama this year would be in a bowl. no LSU, no UF, no Ole Miss, no anyone else.

and you think that's a good idea? it would be a disaster and it would generate less money. who the frick would want to watch Lamar vs Clemson?

sometimes I fail to understand how people come up with ideas w/o even attempting to see the ramifications of said action. do yourself a favor and don't play chess.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 4:56 am to
quote:

Eliminate all BS games and expand the playoffs



I agree with you, have been saying this for awhile now.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 4:58 am to
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you're gonna have a lot of very good teams not going to bowls


Can you elaborate a bit on this.

I thought for example if we went to an expanded playoff system, those playoff games would be incorporated into the Bowl system, evidently you are saying this is not possible.
Posted by sml71
Run if you hear banjos.
Member since Dec 2005
4310 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 5:50 am to
TN bhoy is correct. All that a playoff does is determine who got the hottest at the end of a season.

Anyone remember Super Bowl XLII?
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16761 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 5:57 am to
Take the present system, expand to the top ten, with two play-in games to make eight.

Problem solved.

Play whatever meaningless shite bowls survive after the playoff system.

Then, an "elite" program is judged by how often they make the playoffs.

ESPN makes money on the shite bowl games through advertising, even if no one is in the stands. The shite bowls are TV shows; they would remain that way.
Posted by Chris Warner
Perdido Bay
Member since Jan 2009
5575 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 6:02 am to
Bump.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 6:06 am to
great idea. treat all conferances as if they are equal. Brillant.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11474 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 6:30 am to
It should be keep the BCS system but top four teams in playoff.

This committee is stupid and political good ole baw stuff.

There was never a discussion in the BCS era about a number five or lower team getting screwed.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 6:55 am to
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great idea. treat all conferances as if they are equal. Brillant.




Well yes and no, you would be treating all Conference Champions as equals. There have been glorious chapters in Football Anthology where the Small School makes all the way to the top. Basketball sees this more often than Football because of the setup now.
Posted by Lee Chatelain
I love the OT!
Member since Oct 2008
11327 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 7:04 am to
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B. Playoffs are fricking stupid and a terrible way to choose a champion



What's the best way to determine a champion then since you're an expert on the matter?
This post was edited on 12/29/15 at 7:05 am
Posted by Lee Chatelain
I love the OT!
Member since Oct 2008
11327 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 7:19 am to
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yea, that should be done just for you. frick the players.


Yea, exactly. Explain to me why Nebraska at 5-7 deserved a bowl game? This isn't little league participation trophy time. They SUCKED!

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and, you're gonna have a lot of very good teams not going to bowls yet have some shitty small conference teams making the playoffs


Then maybe teams like LSU should win their games if they want to make the playoffs. And when their is a committee (humans) selecting the teams, a no-name team isn't going to make the playoffs. NO MATTER what their record is.

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for example, only bama this year would be in a bowl. no LSU, no UF, no Ole Miss, no anyone else.



Bama is the only team from the SEC that derserved making the playoffs. All the other teams weren't worth a shite.

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and you think that's a good idea? it would be a disaster and it would generate less money. who the frick would want to watch Lamar vs Clemson?


No one! And that's why teams like Lamar will never make the playoffs. If you have 4 or 5 power conferences then teams like Lamar won't go to the playoffs no matter what their record is (remember what happened to Tulane? 13-0 and shut out of the BCS). Teams like Lamar are the ones that go to the Sun Bowl, Liberty Bowl and so on when you have power conferences that play meaningful games. Lamar vs. Southern isn't meaningful.

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sometimes I fail to understand how people come up with ideas w/o even attempting to see the ramifications of said action. do yourself a favor and don't play chess.



I can say the same thing about your theory.
This post was edited on 12/29/15 at 7:21 am
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
58972 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 7:35 am to
I have always wanted a 6-team playoff with the top 2 teams getting a bye. There has to be an incentive to go undefeated in the regular season. You can't "reward" a team like '11 LSU or those USC/Texas teams of '05 with having to play a 2/3 loss team at neutral site.

I was worried about the playoff challenging the sanctity of the regular season--the thing that clearly makes CFB the greatest sport in the history of the world. I have been pleasantly surprised with the 4-team playoff actually more games more meaningful. But you can't keep expanding and keep that sanctity, otherwise you turn into the NFL or--even worse--college basketball.

So, 6 teams. 5 power conference champions with a wild-card for either an 11-1ish power 5 team who may have lost a close game on the road to the conference champion or a Boise State having a magical season. Everyone is included. The key is to reward the top 2 teams with byes.

How you determine the seeds and the wildcard is open. I have actually been very impressed with the committee so far. I think they are much more serious and qualified than most on here seem to give them credit for. And they have shown that they not only are they independent thinkers from the polls, but are fluid week-to-week as they get more data to work with. However, we've only had 2 years. Controversy is inevitable. The BCS I always thought was great, but some seem to have forgotten that it was made up of mostly people, not just computers. And quite honestly I trust the job the committee has done so far more than coaches/SIDs and Harris Poll guys.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 7:40 am to
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But you can't keep expanding and keep that sanctity, otherwise you turn into the NFL or--even worse--college basketball.



I am not following this part, explain what you mean by this a little more detail. I get the words, I am missing the bad part of the analogy.
This post was edited on 12/29/15 at 7:44 am
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6369 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 7:49 am to
quote:

Eliminate all BS games and expand the playoffs



no..hell nooo...then games during the year wouldnt mean as much...essentially the games during the season are playoff games
This post was edited on 12/29/15 at 7:50 am
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
10124 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 7:53 am to
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B. Playoffs are fricking stupid and a terrible way to choose a champion


The way the NFL does it? I agree. Damn near hald the league makes the playoffs, so the season becomes somewhat watered and meaningless.

But with the number of NCAA FBS teams, expanding to about 8 teams still makes the season extremely important, and takes away some of the biases to "squeesing" in 4 teams. Right now, the method in choosing is so disguised, and I think they want it that way week to week, so at the end of the year, they can put in whoever they want.

The perfect situation, IMO, would be 8 teams with the old BCS formulas to determine top 8.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77563 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 7:55 am to
I'll never get why people complain about more football. Especially games they're not forced to watch.
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