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re: Eliminate all BS games and expand the playoffs
Posted on 12/29/15 at 7:57 am to caliegeaux
Posted on 12/29/15 at 7:57 am to caliegeaux
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8 teams with the old BCS formulas to determine top 8.
I like this and it would be a good first test and maybe the final solution. Great place to start.
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Posted on 12/29/15 at 8:10 am to tjc9487
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The old BCS way? Are you sane??
the BCS had its flaws but what do you think is more corruptible....a system that uses two separate human polls, each with 60+ voters as well as unbiased computer polls?....or a system that has a group of 10 guys select who makes the playoffs with no set parameters teams are judged by, nor are the parameters the same for each team. The playoffs are a joke dude. Can you tell me how many times in the 17 years that the BCS got the wrong two teams in the title game? I can think of once off hand.
This post was edited on 12/29/15 at 8:13 am
Posted on 12/29/15 at 8:26 am to sml71
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TN bhoy is correct. All that a playoff does is determine who got the hottest at the end of a season.
Anyone remember Super Bowl XLII?
As much criticism as the BCS received, the system worked pretty well, imo. It depends on how people want the "National Champion" to be determined and what it means. Does it mean the best team of the year? If so, then a tournament at the end of the year doesn't necessarily produce that result.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 8:35 am to Bayoufightingtiger
No, but what they do need is a marketing strategy to make all of these ridiculous amounts of 6-6 teams vs. 7-5 teams have purpose and get more ratings.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 8:36 am to VOR
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It depends on how people want the "National Champion" to be determined and what it means. Does it mean the best team of the year? If so, then a tournament at the end of the year doesn't necessarily produce that result.
Agreed.
Rarely do I agree with Collin Cowherd, but his take on the BCS was pretty much in line with how I felt. If we are going to award a team a championship, lets take who the 2 best teams are during the course of the year, and have them battle it out for a true champion. The Giants getting in at 8-8 and becoming a Super Bowl Champ does not mean they were the best team that year, they just won the playoff.
Most BCS champs were considered the best team. Yes, debate was made over which 2 teams should be in, but at least most teams were at the top of the rankings most of the year and the other teams with agruements were all top level teams with legimate gripes, not some 8-8 team.
As stated, the BCS had its flaws, but the more you put it on the shouldere of people, the more we are going to see some head scratching decisions being made. Top 8, BCS formula to determine. Settle it on the field.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 8:37 am to PiscesTiger
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No, but what they do need is a marketing strategy to make all of these ridiculous amounts of 6-6 teams vs. 7-5 teams have purpose and get more ratings.
or just get rid of them because there is no way to put lipstick on that pig. No one wants to watch 6-6 Georgia St play 5-7 San Jose St in a bowl game. That type of game doesn't make money, and the schools don't make money playing in those games.
This post was edited on 12/29/15 at 8:39 am
Posted on 12/29/15 at 8:39 am to TN Bhoy
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Playoffs are fricking stupid and a terrible way to choose a champion
Ummmm ok, why?? Also, you do realize you're saying pretty much every other sport has it wrong, right??
Posted on 12/29/15 at 8:41 am to Mulat
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8 teams with the old BCS formulas to determine top 8.
I like this and it would be a good first test and maybe the final solution. Great place to start.
I second this. This is a brilliant way to do it. It would be all you ever needed, imo. No need for a 16 team playoff.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 8:42 am to tjc9487
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What's a better way to crown a champion then?
quote:Yes. It was perfect. Playoffs suck for a variety of reasons. Just ask anyone who routinely travels to away games.
The old BCS way?
Posted on 12/29/15 at 8:43 am to caliegeaux
Yeah, you generally got the best two teams, but why is college football so special as to be really the only organized sport to just pick the top two teams to play for the title as opposed to letting it play out in a playoff? Correct me if I'm wrong, but NOBODY ELSE does that.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 8:47 am to sicboy
True, no one else does it that way, that I'm aware of, but that doesn't make it wrong, just because nobody else does that. Hell, college football is the only sport I even care to watch anymore, maybe that has something to do with it. Why watch week 4 of the NFL if it doesn't have much meaning on making the playoffs?
Posted on 12/29/15 at 8:51 am to caliegeaux
There are so many damn teams in college football, a 4 or 8 team playoff isn't going to dilute anything.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 8:57 am to lsufball19
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That type of game doesn't make money
If the bowl doesn't make money, they will go out of business.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 9:01 am to TN Bhoy
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TN Bhoy
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Playoffs are fricking stupid and a terrible way to choose a champion
Really,
Ever heard of the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL?
How about March Madness and the College World Series?
Seems to work for them. What do you propose that is better than any of those.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 9:05 am to sicboy
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There are so many damn teams in college football, a 4 or 8 team playoff isn't going to dilute anything.
This is just nonsense.
So you're saying a 16 or 32 team playoff would be better??? At the end of the season, after conference championships, wouldn't you say most 9-16 ranked teams have already played a 1-8 team??? Look at the current rankings and tell me if there's a 9-16 team that hasn't played a 1-8 team.
I'm guessing you want a 128 team playoff so Cincy can get in..
This post was edited on 12/29/15 at 9:12 am
Posted on 12/29/15 at 9:07 am to Bayoufightingtiger
Here's my playoff plan:
8 conferences with 12 teams each (96 teams, the rest move to a lower division) Each conference has a championship game, with the winner going into an 8 team playoff. Round 1 hosted on campuses. Round 2 location is debatable. Championship game at a neutral site.
All conferences play 8 conference games and 4 non-conference games. Non-conference games can only be played against other teams in this division. This should improve the quality of the non-conference schedule.
Have some system to allow the best teams from the lower division move up and the worst teams from the top division to move down.
8 conferences with 12 teams each (96 teams, the rest move to a lower division) Each conference has a championship game, with the winner going into an 8 team playoff. Round 1 hosted on campuses. Round 2 location is debatable. Championship game at a neutral site.
All conferences play 8 conference games and 4 non-conference games. Non-conference games can only be played against other teams in this division. This should improve the quality of the non-conference schedule.
Have some system to allow the best teams from the lower division move up and the worst teams from the top division to move down.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 9:15 am to Bayoufightingtiger
We wouldn't be playing tonight. 
Posted on 12/29/15 at 9:21 am to TchPowDog
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a 4 or 8 team playoff isn't going to dilute anything
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So you're saying a 16 or 32 team playoff would be better???
Reading is hard.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 9:28 am to Bayoufightingtiger
Here's my idea...be easy guys, it's just an idea...
First of all, bye bye NCAA. None of this will work under the NCAA's principles.
Second, all major schools join 4/5/6 major conferences in a new collegiate football association. (This association can be headed by Mark Cuban or Donald Trump or someone else of this caliber.)
Third, each team plays every other team in their conference (6-8 games) PLUS they reserve the option to play ONE out of conference game (if you want to play Louisiana Tech, be my guest. I'd rather play another big name school in this system).
Fourth, a single elimination "Playoff" will be held consisting of 16 teams. (this will not lengthen the schedule because you only play 6-8 conference game PLUS the option of 1 out of conference game).
Fifth, the "Playoff" seeding will be assigned based on a hybrid of the BCS (computers) and a single Coaching Poll, that's it.
Sixth, the lower-tier bowl games are just that now, consolation games. (the teams that make a lower-tier bowl game receive less practice time than the teams that made it to the big show).
Seventh, beginning in the playoffs, players on the official roster of the teams that make the playoffs receive a percentage (lower than 10%) of the ticket sells divided evenly among themselves for each game as long as they are still in the playoff. (The players make more money if they reach the championship game rather than if they are eliminated in the first round).
Eighth, the best team wins. GO!
First of all, bye bye NCAA. None of this will work under the NCAA's principles.
Second, all major schools join 4/5/6 major conferences in a new collegiate football association. (This association can be headed by Mark Cuban or Donald Trump or someone else of this caliber.)
Third, each team plays every other team in their conference (6-8 games) PLUS they reserve the option to play ONE out of conference game (if you want to play Louisiana Tech, be my guest. I'd rather play another big name school in this system).
Fourth, a single elimination "Playoff" will be held consisting of 16 teams. (this will not lengthen the schedule because you only play 6-8 conference game PLUS the option of 1 out of conference game).
Fifth, the "Playoff" seeding will be assigned based on a hybrid of the BCS (computers) and a single Coaching Poll, that's it.
Sixth, the lower-tier bowl games are just that now, consolation games. (the teams that make a lower-tier bowl game receive less practice time than the teams that made it to the big show).
Seventh, beginning in the playoffs, players on the official roster of the teams that make the playoffs receive a percentage (lower than 10%) of the ticket sells divided evenly among themselves for each game as long as they are still in the playoff. (The players make more money if they reach the championship game rather than if they are eliminated in the first round).
Eighth, the best team wins. GO!
Posted on 12/29/15 at 9:28 am to Bayoufightingtiger
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ust play conference games and make all conferences have a championship game for conferences that have separate divisions.
The biggest flaw that hasn't been mentioned is what the NFL goes through all year; there would too many games in Nov that would be meaningless. You would risk teams mailing it in bc they no longer have anything to play for. At the very least, they should reduce the number of bowl games. There are too way many; you should have a winning record to make a bowl game (6-6 would not make it). Before we know it, every team will make a bowl game and we will start giving out participation bowls to teams w/ 1-2 wins.
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