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re: Dural: Harris "leading the way a quarterback is supposed to"

Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:22 am to
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:22 am to
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It seems that Jennings is much better in practice than in games. Les comes from the old school that places a greater value on practice than game performance. He will not pick Harris until he is better than Jennings IN PRACTICE. Game performance won't matter because Harris won't get into games. In Les's mind, he thinks " I know Jennings is better in practice but I gave Harris his shot (Auburn) and he couldn't do it. So no need to put him on the field again."




This has to win the dumbass post of the day if not the week.

So if a player has crappy practices, he should play and if a player has great practices, he should sit?
And if the player who has bad practices is inserted into a game and has a bad game, then he should be put back into more games where he can continue to play badly.

Following that logic I should be allowed to play because I know that I would be terrible at practice and then get crushed in games.

Rant logic at its finest.
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9232 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:35 am to
20+ pages, devolving into a JJ/JL rehash around page 8

CAN'T WAIT
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94425 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:37 am to
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So if a player has crappy practices, he should play and if a player has great practices, he should sit?
And if the player who has bad practices is inserted into a game and has a bad game, then he should be put back into more games where he can continue to play badly.



The only practice I have to go by is the spring game but this sounds like exactly what happened last year.
Posted by No Diggity Tiger
Member since Apr 2013
152 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:39 am to
I hope Harris continues to mature and eventually takes over as the starting QB. BUT, lets stop pretending that sophomore and freshman QBs regularly just come in college football and succeed with numbers similar to second and third year starting QBs. (+2:1 TD,INTs; >60% Comp %) It certainly does happen (Aaron Murray for example) but it isn't a normality. Add in that we run a pro style set which is difficult for the QB to read the defense post snap and where he has to react much quicker compared with the one-two, pre-snap read spread offenses.

So, comparing apples to apples, just in terms of first year starters and running a "similar offense" to LSU with like competition. (In no way am i saying Jennings is as talented)

Matt Stafford

Jamarcus Russell

Compared to.... Anthony Jennings

Let the best man compete and win the job!

Ooo and my bad for being rational!

Posted by Oizers
Member since Nov 2009
2643 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:40 am to
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But but themadfratter said Harris couldn't even complete a swing pass and he stares down his receivers...


There have been plenty of reports over the course of the spring that have pretty much said the same thing about Harris FYI.
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
24601 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:59 am to
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There have been plenty of reports over the course of the spring that have pretty much said the same thing about Harris FYI.



Yeah but we saw that live last season with Jennings in and out every week, so does this mean we have no qb who can do this. If so we are in terrible shape
This post was edited on 4/17/15 at 9:00 am
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71359 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:59 am to
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As much potential I see in Harris, it's hard not to root for a guy like Jennings. Jennings has a great attitude that I hope is contagious throughout the team. If the pieces come together for either one we are in for a great ride next season.



Why not root for both?
Posted by lsutiger2011
Georgia
Member since Jan 2009
1278 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:00 am to
I'm just ready to see if Lee will beat out Jefferson in the Spring Game tomorrow.
Posted by PEABODY32
Everywhere
Member since Feb 2011
1184 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:17 am to
Great Post
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:21 am to
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So the coaches made the rt decision last year?
No, absolutely not. Imagine how much better Harris would be with a year of starting under his belt. We were never going to get anywhere with AJ. Should have just played Harris so he could get some experience.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34507 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:30 am to
Jesus fricking henry christ we need a QB board
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:24 am to
Stafford's 2006 52.7% completions, 7TD with 13INT is cause for optimism regardless of who starts next year.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:25 am to
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Les comes from the old school that places a greater value on practice than game performance. He will not pick Harris until he is better than Jennings IN PRACTICE


I would think any competent head coach would value practice performance over glimpses of in-game brilliance.

Practice is what you will fall back on when adversity hits, when the other team refuses to let you use athleticism to beat them.
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5975 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:30 am to
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Les' s job is to win games. Harris would not have done this last year.

AJ isn't the answer but he was the only option last season.


I still don't get why people have this feeling. I guess the Auburn game clouds everyone's memory, but Harris was head and shoulders better last year.

And it's undeniable.
Adjusted scoring (points scored - turnovers x average opp. points/turnover) is telling enough.
Jennings 11 scores.. 10 turnovers = adj. score of 54
Harris.. 9 scores.. 3 turnovers = adj. score of 50
You can argue whatever you want.. however you want.. but the fact is Harris accounted for virtually the same amount of points in 1/4th the ammount of snaps.
Jennings averaged a touchdown every 30 plays.
While Harris averaged one every 8 plays!

Les has made some "headscratching" decisions over the years, but starting Harris at Auburn(what were they ranked? like #3 at the time) and not giving him a chance against Arkansas when Jennings was more than useless were two of the more bizarre and frustrating things I've ever seen.

Harris still accounted for more yards than Jennings (they split time) against Auburn.

Harris was better. Plain and simple.
There is no justifiable reason to claim that Jennings gave us a better chance at winning. We won in spite of him in every possible way.

Dural is just translating the stats into words.
Good to hear, nonetheless.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:31 am to
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There have been plenty of reports over the course of the spring that have pretty much said the same thing about Harris FYI.


Links? Because I have seen the exact opposite.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:39 am to
And for all the talk about how great Jennings is in practice as compared to Harris, Harris sure did light Jennings up in the Spring game last year. Their only time to compete directly against each other on the same field the stat line was:

Jennings: 157 yards with a passing TD and and 2 INT's

Harris: 195 yards with 3 passing TD's and a rushing TD

Hopefully we see them both go for 225 yards 2 passing TD's and a rushing TD tomorrow. I'd feel better if they both look equally good as compared to one looking not as bad as the other.
This post was edited on 4/17/15 at 11:02 am
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29263 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:45 am to
jennings threw 2 pick 6's in the spring game last year...
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:02 am to
Corrected
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:09 am to
quote:

Jennings: 157 yards with a passing TD and and 2 INT's

Harris: 195 yards with 3 passing TD's and a rushing TD



Now show their completion percentages
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:10 am to
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tgerb8


Miles/Cameron's judgement >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tgerb8 judgement
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