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The Mick
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Member since Oct 2010
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re: Draft departures from this team

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Hill's stock will rise by staying because he needs to show he can stay out of trouble for another year.
total nonsense


lsutothetop
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Member since Jul 2008
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re: Draft departures from this team
Hill: He's gone.

Hilliard: It depends on his draft grade; I don't think he'll be able to improve his stock much, so if he grades out in the top 4-5 rounds he's gone. If he doesn't then he'll probably stay just to see if maybe he can push his stock up, but I don't think he's gonna rise a whole lot. Teams know what they're getting from him by now.

Landry: Definitely gone if Beckham goes. If Beckham stays and we don't get a championship this year, he might come back for that. Would still say he probably goes.

Beckham: See above replacing Beckham with Landry.

Collins: Also depends on draft grade. He's got legitimate 1st/2nd round potential, if teams don't think they've seen enough after this year to make that decision, he'll come back.

Turner: See above, but I don't think he's 1st/2nd round material, probably mid-rounds. Gone if he grades out 4th round or better, back if it's fifth or worse.

Johnson: Depends on draft grade, he's somewhat underachieved this year and might benefit from coming back for another year.

Ferguson: He's impressed so far but might still come back to improve draft stock. I think he's more likely to go than Johnson.

Allen: Not going anywhere.

Rasco: See above.

Collins: Not going to the NFL, fair chance he transfers if White/Robinson/Mills become our nickel corner set


boxcar willie
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kenner
Member since Mar 2011
6062 posts

re: Draft departures from this team
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Collins: Also depends on draft grade. He's got legitimate 1st/2nd round potential,


do you ever really watch o-line play or is this just something you read somewhere?
This post was edited on 10/8 at 10:52 pm


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tigersruledude
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2005
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re: Draft departures from this team
I think Hill, Landry, and Beckham are gone and should. All are NFL types who will get drafted in the first 4 rounds without doubt (obviously I think they go early in that)

The only other one who should even consider it is Collins. However...because he will have very little film at tackle (compared to others) and that there is a ton of high level OTs in the draft this year...AtM, Bama, Tenn, and Mich. I just don't see him getting a high enough grade to make it with it.

Hilliard will go un drafted if he leaves.

Ego and Freak will carry 5th round grades at best from scouts based on film.

Rasco is a late round pick. Collins would go un drafted.

we have zero defensive players who should consider early entry.


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ready4something
LSU Fan
virginia beach
Member since Jul 2008
5934 posts

re: Draft departures from this team
Hill, Collins, OBJ and Landry are gone. Only one i can see leaving on defense is freak. He is a stretch because honestly, he hasn't shown much to have scouts drooling.


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Datbayoubengal
LSU Fan
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
15115 posts

re: Draft departures from this team
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if he's scared of a true freshman, he shouldn't be too confident he makes an NFL roster


Fournette will be the best running back the next 3 years, in the nation.


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doya2
LSU Fan
Franklin
Member since Jan 2005
1898 posts

re: Draft departures from this team
Offense:
Hill 60/40 goes
Collins 50/50
Beck and Landry gone

defense:
None go (if the draft were held today...per Detillier)



lsuhunt555
Furman Fan
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
24430 posts

re: Draft departures from this team
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Didn't stop Faulk

One injury away from football career being over. Might as well get paid.
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Simon

Dude was broke and had kids. Time to go.
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Wing

He would been academically ineligible for this season anyway.


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The Mick
Marshall Fan
Member since Oct 2010
26071 posts

re: Draft departures from this team
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Hill 60/40 goes
Why do people think Hill isnt as likely gone as OBJ and Landry?


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bearhc
LSU Fan
Member since Sep 2009
1833 posts

re: Draft departures from this team
Here we go again. Why don't we encourage our guys to stay for four years? Why do our fans encourage our guys to leave? As I have stated before, we need more Whitworths and Dorseys. If our defensive guys were still here we would win the national championship without a doubt. In my mind, it is about LSU, not the business of the NFL.


The Mick
Marshall Fan
Member since Oct 2010
26071 posts

re: Draft departures from this team
Our fans are urging players to leave?


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Penrod
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Member since Jan 2011
5358 posts

re: Draft departures from this team
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you don't make an NFL roster by being average. So like I said, if a kid that's still in high school is influencing your decision, you probably have no place in the NFL.


I don't agree. I believe that Jalen Collins will make an NFL roster, and he was passed by two freshmen. I have no doubt that Mills will be an NFL starter, and he is struggling with these freshman.


Penrod
LSU Fan
Member since Jan 2011
5358 posts

re: Draft departures from this team
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Offense: Hill 60/40 goes Collins 50/50


I'll be shocked if Hill doesn't go. It's never 100% because you never can tell, but it's as close to 100% as you can get. Same with Collins...95%

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defense: None go (if the draft were held today...per Detillier)


I have a hunch Jalen Collins goes. He might not be drafted, but that won't change with another year. He's a third year guy, so he's eligible. He won't sniff the field next year. And to those who say he can't make the NFL if he can't play at LSU, LSU has waaay more talent at corner than the average NFL team. Also, I think AJ goes, and EGO is a threat, as well. So, 1 to 3 losses on defense.


lsufball19
LSU Fan
Germantown, TN
Member since Sep 2008
9758 posts

re: Draft departures from this team
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LSU has waaay more talent at corner than the average NFL team

you're high


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TIGRLEE
LSU Fan
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
24554 posts

re: Draft departures from this team
None on defense ,, maybe 3 on offense.


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ThreauxDown11
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2013
1208 posts

re: Draft departures from this team
Freak might be the only one on the defense who should consider leaving early solely on how is combine numbers will be. Film shows that he has a high motor and that he is consistently being double teamed and he has still made a few plays. I see no reason why OBJ and Landry should stay. inexperienced QB next year will probably hurt their stock. If they both go over 1200 yards, which they may, then they are not thinking of their financial futures by staying. I wouldn't say 100% Hill is gone. I think he has a chance to go higher next year.


dos crystal
LSU Fan
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
3131 posts

re: Draft departures from this team
I see only three first day picks on this team. Hill, Mett, and collins.

I don't think obj and landry have the measurables that n.f.l. scouts like. They aren't 6' 2" or above and they don't run 4.3. Their best day is 2nd round more probable 3rd and possibly 4th round.

Anyone on defense, forget about it. they better come back next year or they will be sitting home alone next year.


LsuTool
Ohio State Fan
OOOOOOOOOOOO
Member since Oct 2009
23921 posts
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re: Draft departures from this team
this years draft seems to be pretty deep with WRs

Sammy Watkins
allen robinson
mike evans
maruquise lee
jordan matthews

are landry and beckham more attractive to the NFL than these guys?


Tiger79
LSU Fan
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
3281 posts

re: Draft departures from this team
Mike D is a well thought of Pro scout if he is saying (Rasco,Freak,Ego) need to stay then they need to stay.

The scouts will let these guys know they haven't produced. If they go pro they will be 6th-7th round guys make very low money.


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LSUtigers111
LSU Fan
Clearwater, FL
Member since Apr 2011
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re: Draft departures from this team
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LSU has waaay more talent at corner than the average NFL team.





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