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Does LSU have any National Chsmpionship other than ‘58 if Saban doesn’t come to LSU?

Posted on 1/10/24 at 4:59 pm
Posted by NorthTiger
Upper 40
Member since Jan 2004
3839 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 4:59 pm
I’ve always been a “if you build it they will come” believer is program building.

We’ll never know the answer to my question. I don’t believe we win the 2003 or 2007 titles without him so i’m thinking we may onky have that one without Sabans swing through Baton Rouge.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:00 pm to
Yes
Posted by LSUTIGERS8181
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2012
10002 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:00 pm to
1908, time to recognize
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10193 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

We’ll never know the answer to my question. I don’t believe we win the 2003 or 2007 titles without him so i’m thinking we may onky have that one without Sabans swing through Baton Rouge.


No doubt he got the LSU machine rolling. Anyone who says other wise is a fool. Everyone says Miles won 2007 with Saban's players.

ETA - and history isn't kind when the greats move on. Odds are against the successor maintaining that success.
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 5:07 pm
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
15349 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:01 pm to
You never know but I’d say more likely than not we would have remained a mid tier program. I’m not sure who else would have come along and unlocked the power in the soil here
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
24976 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:05 pm to
Possibly, but we’ll never know thankfully. We need to be very appreciative for what we’ve enjoyed as sports fans. There are 120+ schools that would give anything for even a fraction of our success since Saban.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
3952 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:06 pm to
The correct question to ask is — how many Natty’s do we have if Skip takes Saban back when he asked after NFL instead of sticking with Les?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26738 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:06 pm to
All the SEC teams stepped it up in the early 2000s. No reason to think LSU wouldn't have as well, eventually.
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14099 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:10 pm to
It's hard to admit, but I really don't think we do.

He's a dick that left us, but he's the person that laid the groundwork for what we are today.

In the end, I really think LSU will always hold a special place in his heart. It was his 1st Natty, & he knows that he turned LSU into a consistent contender.
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 5:13 pm
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7265 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

He's a dick that left us


He’s a dick for leaving us to try his hand coaching in the NFL with the Dolphins?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57282 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

Does LSU have any National Chsmpionship other than ‘58 if Saban doesn’t come to LSU?



No
Posted by panzer
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
4032 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:14 pm to
NO
and for that I am eternally grateful to him.
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14099 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

He’s a dick for leaving us to try his hand coaching in the NFL with the Dolphins?


He's not a dick for leaving us.

He's a dick...that's what he is. He also left & ended up at Bama.
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 5:16 pm
Posted by TDlurker
Member since Oct 2007
688 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:14 pm to
LSU went from paying coaches a few hundred thousand, to making Saban the 2nd highest paid coach in football the day he arrived in BR, with a contract that automatically made him the highest paid if he won a NC, which he did. LSU built Saban a new building, and the finest football facilities in the land, so he could out-recruit everyone and build himself into a legend. Already the highest paid coach, he was offered a raise to stay, but decided he couldn't pass up the NFL.

It was the commitment to football greatness from LSU that made Saban, and created those national championships, not the other way around. In a way, LSU is to blame for sparking the current era of absurd coaching salary inflation when it hired Saban 24 years ago.

Here's what you should be asking: how many National Championships does LSU have today if Saban stayed in Miami?
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 5:21 pm
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7265 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:15 pm to
Gotcha
Posted by FutureRATeammember
Member since Jan 2015
3768 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:16 pm to
He went to bama because we told him no. Everyone leaves that part out.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54547 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:16 pm to
I hate saban for coaching at bama but without him coming in and establishing LSU to a contender I don’t think lsu knows how to win without the groundwork he laid here.
Posted by Granola
Member since Jan 2024
447 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:19 pm to
Saban laid the groundwork at LSU to become a power. His vision that got the ball rolling
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53771 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:19 pm to
Probably not if we're honest...

tip the hat folks he was the greatest of all time...

he probably would have won 10 titles at LSU because there wouldn't be an Alabama to stop us
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30164 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:20 pm to
Does LSU win a national championship sooner if Bo Rien drives to Shreveport?

As long as we are speculating.

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