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re: Does anyone else think Cam Cameron is not the right person for OC?

Posted on 11/11/15 at 12:06 am to
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
Member since Aug 2015
1025 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 12:06 am to
quote:

The basic run first is there, but its been like that under multiple head coaches.


Yeah there were a couple Saban years that left a bit to be desired on the offensive side. Should have fired that guy

2004:
9 points vs. Auburn
16 points vs. Georgia
24 points vs. Vanderbilt
24 points vs. Troy

2002:
0 points vs. Alabama
7 points vs. Auburn
8 points vs. Virginia Tech
14 points vs. Ole Miss
20 points vs. Arkansas
20 points vs. Texas
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14420 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:16 am to
We recruit predominantly out of the home state of Louisiana. It's built on power running and feature great athletes at the rb position. I hate that we don't utilize more skill players in the passing game, but that's not our system.
Posted by TheFranchise
The Stick
Member since Feb 2005
6204 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 6:25 am to
How many OCs need to be made into scapegoats?

How many OCs and nothing changes offensively before people realize it's the one constant?

We were no offensive juggernaut in 2011 and our OC had come up under Urban Meyer.

The lack of a short/intermediate passing games means lower probability throws that results in lower completion percentages
Posted by Croozin2
Somewhere on the water
Member since Dec 2004
3192 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 6:52 am to
quote:

Maybe its the head man and not the coordinator?


Ding! You see a pattern developing here?
Posted by panterica
Member since Jun 2012
1274 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 6:54 am to
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I think he is. He's been successful other places. I still believe Miles makes him run a vanilla offense if the quarterback isn't ready


Miles haters aren't ready to consider this a possibility.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8534 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:10 am to
Isn't he the one responsible for getting the QB ready? So for the second year in a row we can't get a QB ready. Then how the hell do other coaches not have a problem getting multiple QB's ready. Just last year FSU and OSU had to rely on backups in big games during playoff seasons.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 7:11 am
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53774 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:13 am to
I think Miles needs to change

All our OC's and game plans under Miles look the same
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29267 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:16 am to
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3rd and 16 late in the 3rd qtr when you are losing by double digits is not the time nor the place.


that was ridiculous
Posted by JamesMaskin
Member since Oct 2012
249 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:24 am to
Seems like Ravens fans felt that he was holding their QB back.

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Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66649 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:42 am to
You don't really know things.

The offense looks different than it did under Fisher and Crowton. It's pretty ignorant to say otherwise
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:44 am to
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The Baltimore Ravens won the Super Bowl when he was the OC


Wrong....... He was fired before the playoffs
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:45 am to
quote:

Yeah there were a couple Saban years that left a bit to be desired on the offensive side. Should have fired that guy

2004:
9 points vs. Auburn
16 points vs. Georgia
24 points vs. Vanderbilt
24 points vs. Troy

2002:
0 points vs. Alabama
7 points vs. Auburn
8 points vs. Virginia Tech
14 points vs. Ole Miss
20 points vs. Arkansas
20 points vs. Texas


Don't forget 10 points versus UAB.

Saban sure hasn't forgotten. He had their program shut down so as to make sure he never had to play them again.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18500 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:45 am to
Cam can teach all the principles he want but the players have to execute the game plan. I don't think many were having an issue before the bama game. We won't face a defense that stout up front the rest of the season.
Posted by mlminbtr
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
650 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:49 am to
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How many OCs would that be under Miles if Cam is let go? Maybe its the head man and not the coordinator?


This, this and only this!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26643 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:52 am to
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I still believe Miles makes him run a vanilla offense if the quarterback isn't ready


And whose job is it to get the QB ready?

Look around at how many schools are playing and winning with freshmen at QB. Why is it that none of our QBs under Cam seem to be able to grasp his offense within a couple of years.

It seems his passing scheme is just too complicated for college and doesn't translate well for young QBs. Also, why do we have such a hard time creating space for our receivers? They only seem to be wide open when they have simply outrun the DB on a fly or post pattern.
Posted by jcc4009
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
406 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:03 am to
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We were no offensive juggernaut in 2011 and our OC had come up under Urban Myers.
....Studrawa..was the o-line coach during Myers two years st Bowling Green and was not taken to Utah with Myers when he left BG...hardly qualifies as "come up under Urban Myers"...more like had two years exposure to Myers and did not learn enough...lol
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14420 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:06 am to
Cam does not have a great history of winning. You can call his system or scheme what you want, but he has not been successful at winning games in his career. He's done a far better job as a coordinator, but that's not saying much for a guy who has never had a winning record or even a .500 record as a head coach.

It is hard to deny the curse of 2008 that is still haunting the offense though.
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:10 am to
The offense has changed a little, but the simplicity and lack of production hasn't.
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
3135 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:15 am to
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Miles doesn't have the faith in any young qb.


I think he has been suffering from a form of PTSD since 2008 and crawls back into his Bo Schembechler shell anytime something bad occurs with the offense.
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
3135 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:25 am to
quote:

We were no offensive juggernaut in 2011 and our OC had come up under Urban Meyer


BINGO! When Stud was the OC at Bowling Green, I don't think they ran predominantly out of the I-formation, and I would be willing to bet you they didn't have a "toss dive" in the playbook.

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