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Posted on 10/23/11 at 6:41 pm to Slim
quote:This........is dumb.
Solid quarterback play would be my #1 reason.
You think solid qb play will fix a clusterfricked mindless offensive scheme?
Case in point.
The Wiz took a qb with a solid 9-4W-L, 22TD 8int 2010 season, and pretty much ruined him in '11 (2-6W-L, 5TD, 6int).
Anything faintly familiar?
Posted on 10/23/11 at 6:44 pm to Mayhawman
quote:
This........is dumb.
You think solid qb play will fix a clusterfricked mindless offensive scheme?
Execution was missing last year from the qb position.
IDGAF how you want to label it.
GC being gone is a good thing.. but I wonder what we would have looked like with JL getting 75% of the snaps last yr instead of 25%.
Obv that's a hypostheitical,,, but how many times when Lee was in the game last year did he look lost or confused?
This post was edited on 10/23/11 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 10/23/11 at 6:50 pm to TIGRLEE
Quite often actually. But it wasn't just QB play.... The entire offense looked confused at times. It just QB is naturally most noticeable. Crowton being gone is the answer, he has ruined every offense he's been at I don't understand how anyone can say he wasn't the number 1 problem.
Posted on 10/23/11 at 6:57 pm to jcb236
I have to say Crowton. The sideline was so much more organized compared to last year.
Posted on 10/23/11 at 7:00 pm to Chimlim
quote:
Quite often actually.
come on man... if that's the case give me one example.
Im not taking up for GC,, Im jsut saying that the execution part of what the qb IS RESPONISBSLE for gets overlooked.
I didnt think we looked bad/lost/or confused in 07, 08, or 09 in terms of offensive scheme.
Thats with 3 different qbs.
One of those being JJ.
We didnt execute last year.
Thats a fact.
Now was it 60% GC and 40% qb or 80-20 IDK...
All I know is the probelms we saw on offense last year, we dont see this year.
The two guys that were biggest component last season (which is you ocorr and your qb) for the most part arent there anymore.
I think its obv a combination.... everyone here has a different opinion on who's more at fault.
Honestly it doesnt matter to me... its fixed and we are playing well and moving and protecting the ball.
Posted on 10/23/11 at 7:01 pm to Common sence
quote:
Your a Meauxron and everyone who thinks it was Crowton's fault. Everyone knows we are going to run run run up the middle and they still can't stop us. That shows it is all about execution. How many times were we sacked last year compared to this year. The qb's are better because they're more mature as well as the o line. You people are the same ones that wanted to run Miles out of town before the Bama game last year. Enough said.
Don't forget stud. Everyone wanted his head on a platter
Posted on 10/23/11 at 7:04 pm to Common sence
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You people are the same ones that wanted to run Miles out of town before the Bama game last year. Enough said.
Weak sauce. Miles had planned on putting the #12 rated QB in all of the NCAA on the bench. Until outside forces intervened, and left him no choice.
Think about that one more time. A QB ranked in the Top 10% of the nation, has been sitting our bench for over 2 years.
Posted on 10/23/11 at 7:05 pm to TigerFan55555
I'm sorry but you say Lee wa thrown in the fire and act like JJ wasn't. JJ was the same age as a true soph in 08 and our passing game was all we had. We ran for less tham 50 yrds total in 4 games in 09 JJ had a higher qb rating than Flynn in 07. But he was never good? You sir aren't football smart. You don't have to tear down JJ to compliment Lee.
Posted on 10/23/11 at 7:05 pm to TigerFan55555
quote:
No Crowton.
Posted on 10/23/11 at 7:10 pm to TIGRLEE
quote:Why would that matter if QB execution is all that held us back?
GC being gone is a good thing
quote:
but I wonder what we would have looked like with JL getting 75% of the snaps last yr instead of 25%.
I know where you're going with this, but it's futile. You think 5 points in eff would've made the difference?
'10 JJ- @115rat
'10 JL- @120rat
'11 JJ- @230rat
'11 JL- @155rat
Posted on 10/23/11 at 7:12 pm to jcb236
quote:
jcb236-
It does seem that Crowton may have been a bigger minus than we thought.
No. Not here lol
Posted on 10/23/11 at 7:13 pm to Common sence
quote:
Your a Meauxron and everyone who thinks it was Crowton's fault. Everyone knows we are going to run run run up the middle and they still can't stop us. That shows it is all about execution. How many times were we sacked last year compared to this year. The qb's are better because they're more mature as well as the o line. You people are the same ones that wanted to run Miles out of town before the Bama game last year. Enough said.
Everyone knows you are one of the biggest Rantards around, and while yes, the maturing of some of our players certainly is a factor to our team's improvement, if you really think this offense looks anything like what Crowton was doing, you are clearly not watching.
Posted on 10/23/11 at 7:15 pm to Mayhawman
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Why would that matter if QB execution is all that held us back?
I didnt say that was all that was holding us back.
quote:
I know where you're going with this,
where?
seriously what have you conjuered up in your little mind where I was going with this?
Posted on 10/23/11 at 7:26 pm to jcb236
:didnotread: and simple answer is no Crowton.
Posted on 10/23/11 at 7:29 pm to TIGRLEE
quote:
where?
seriously what have you conjuered up in your little mind where I was going with this?
quote:That's where.
I wonder what we would have looked like with JL getting 75% of the snaps last yr instead of 25%.
Don't act all innocent like nobody knows your agenda.
Oh, and when you've got no answers for facts, start the name calling.
And you conjuer up the courage to call me small minded.
Posted on 10/23/11 at 7:41 pm to jcb236
quote:
Qb play is vastly improved
no crowton.
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The game plans seem suited to our talent
no crowton.
quote:
Very solid defensive line play,
Sam is back...Brockers has come into his own...Adams and Mingo lead by example and the kids have the want.
quote:
Special teams play is a true plus,
very solid punting, field goals and deep ko's.
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The hitting
this.
quote:
It does seem that Crowton may have been a bigger minus than we thought.
define "we"....he had no clue how to utilize the talent at hand.
quote:
Both qbs get the ball and make deicison faster; however, that could be the result of a less complicated game plan.
this....crowton's plays had to be executed perfectly or they collapsed under their own weight.
quote:
Near the end of the game yesterday, I began to feel sorry for the Auburn return guys.
anybody with a conscience did....that said, f'em.
Posted on 10/23/11 at 7:43 pm to Mayhawman
Look bro, I dont have an agenda.
I know its a popular thing for few of you on here to say concernig these qbs,, but it in all honesty I dont.
Ive said this before and its 100% true.. If someone on this board says somehting and you agree with it, then its an opinion.. if you dont agree its an "agenda".
Couple other things.. I noticed you convienently left of the "hypothetical" part that I typed.
Also I havent called anyone any names in this thread.
Oh.. btw Im sorry I misspelled conjure.
try to get it right from now on.
I know its a popular thing for few of you on here to say concernig these qbs,, but it in all honesty I dont.
Ive said this before and its 100% true.. If someone on this board says somehting and you agree with it, then its an opinion.. if you dont agree its an "agenda".
Couple other things.. I noticed you convienently left of the "hypothetical" part that I typed.
Also I havent called anyone any names in this thread.
Oh.. btw Im sorry I misspelled conjure.
try to get it right from now on.
Posted on 10/23/11 at 7:52 pm to TIGRLEE
The obvious answer is Krags.
Posted on 10/23/11 at 7:55 pm to jcb236
Crowton being gone is the biggest reason.
We've also gotten more consistent QB play, much better OL and DL play, and Brandon Taylor is healthy.
We've also gotten more consistent QB play, much better OL and DL play, and Brandon Taylor is healthy.
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