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re: Did Romero do enough Sunday to send Pap to the bench?

Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:36 am to
Posted by supersaints9
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:36 am to
You continue to be one the worst posters on this site. Congrats on your achievement!!!
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:38 am to
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but would he fare as good going against the better (or best) pitchers on the team?


There's only one way to find out.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:40 am to
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Perhaps there is another variable here: Don't most teams start on Friday nights (or the first game of a series) with their strongest pitcher? If true, Pap has batted against the best that teams can offer. Has Romero? Romero looks good against the "rest of the staff" but would he fare as good going against the better (or best) pitchers on the team?


Come on dude, Romero is killing Paps SEC numbers.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:42 am to
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Come on dude, Romero is killing Paps SEC numbers


Yeah I don't any way you can argue that Pap is in Romero's league at the plate. The only thing he's got is his discipline. He does walk quite a bit.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:43 am to
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Come on dude, Romero is killing Paps SEC numbers.


Romero's games against SEC play at Catcher were against Auburn and Missouri. He hasn't gotten any AB (as catcher) against quality arms. He struggled as DH against Vandy.
Posted by 9th Green At 9
From where they make gumbo at
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 1:19 pm to
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a mediocre catcher
No way you think Romero is mediocre behind the plate.

Here is how I see it:

Hitting
Paps: C-
Romero: A

Fielding
Paps: A-
Romero: B+

Arm
Romero: A
Paps: B+

With all of that added to the mix, Romero is my guy.
This post was edited on 4/18/16 at 1:22 pm
Posted by massiveattack
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 1:23 pm to
The more Catholic High Bears on the field, the better
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 1:34 pm to
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He struggled as DH against Vandy.


Its already been established he struggles at DH regardless.

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Romero's games against SEC play at Catcher were against Auburn and Missouri. He hasn't gotten any AB (as catcher) against quality arms


Against that same Mizzou team pap was 0-4

And against A&M and Vandy pap was a compbined 4-18
Posted by Sampson
Chicago
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 1:38 pm to
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The more Catholic High Bears on the field, the better


This can't be stressed enough and is the most overlooked advantage Romero has over Papierski.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 1:53 pm to
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No way you think Romero is mediocre behind the plate.


Not what I said, at all. I said it was ingrained in me that defense > offense from the catcher position, so I can see why CPM has stuck with Pap. The mediocre comment was regarding my highschool teammates.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 1:58 pm to
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You do realize Romero would not have touched Houck on Sat


This is what I've been saying. Romero is not as good a hitter as his average suggests. CPM has used him in good situations. If he becomes an everyday hitter his average will likely drop. And Pap's will increase for the same reason.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 2:08 pm to
So a player is only good because he sucks.

Never heard that argument before...
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 2:11 pm to
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So a player is only good because he sucks.


Well...when you put it that way...

No, el, what I mean is that Romero, like most hitters, has certain matchup weaknesses. CPM is holding him out of those situations. So when and if he has to face the poorer matchups his average will likely fall.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 2:13 pm to
If hitting 0.324 is bad for who Romero has faced, how terrible must Dawson and Breaux be? Sheesh
This post was edited on 4/18/16 at 2:14 pm
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45044 posts
Posted on 4/18/16 at 2:19 pm to
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So when and if he has to face the poorer matchups his average will likely fall.



Pap went 4-18 against A&M and Vandy. And you think Romero, as the starting catcher, would have batted worse than .222?

Pap was also 0-1 against Houck with 2 BB's btw.

Your arguments are getting worse
Posted by jpk4lsu
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 3:19 pm to
Bryce needs to be DH.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 3:46 pm to
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You do realize Romero would not have touched Houck on Sat



ummm no I don't think we realize that. Break it down for us
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 4:04 pm to
I wondered in the other thread on this if Romero's past injuries are a concern with being an every day player?

Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 4:05 pm to
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He has said before he does not hit well when at DH. He hits better when he's more involved in the game. I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'm curious to see his hitting stats when he is behind the plate vs his stats at DH.


Yes, the other thread said something to this effect as well. That he hits better when he's catching.

Bryce Jordan seems to be a very good DH.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65821 posts
Posted on 4/18/16 at 4:10 pm to
Pap has been so bad that when he comes up he's like an automatic out.

I hope he turns it around. I would prefer a guy like Romero who has the ability to put the ball over the fence vs live pitching.. even if they both hit for low average I prefer the guy who produces more RBI's.. but Romero actually hits for high average so he's even more beneficial. He's at least not the easy out like Pap is at this point.

I believe CPM just really values Pap's defense and there may be something about not playing Romero every day from a leg/knee concern? Again though, I admit I have no idea and am just grasping. I know Romero had some surgery down there and at one point wasn't sure he'd ever play competitive baseball again.
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