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Develop or Niche - What to do with Jennings
Posted on 12/8/14 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 12/8/14 at 7:36 pm
Will Miles and Cam "niche" to Jennings' ability in the next 2 years? Or is he "developable" into a QB who can see the field?
I imagine there is some thought that "of course he can be developed with more intentional practice by Cam".
But, is this true? Look at Jefferson. He never developed despite several years.
So, the question is, if you are Cam, do you develop a variation of the 2014 offense and niche to a run-almost-all-the-time offensive approach by the QB, or do you try to develop him in the off-season while he is wearing a green shirt and knows there are no live bullets to dodge, which is the approach taken with Jefferson?
If you were Cam, what would you do?
A) The 2014 base offense/strategy, with some TAMU game variation, and more to be added in the off-season?
or
B) Try to develop him into a Matt Flynn style QB to allow the LSU offense to be more versatile?
Your preference?
I imagine there is some thought that "of course he can be developed with more intentional practice by Cam".
But, is this true? Look at Jefferson. He never developed despite several years.
So, the question is, if you are Cam, do you develop a variation of the 2014 offense and niche to a run-almost-all-the-time offensive approach by the QB, or do you try to develop him in the off-season while he is wearing a green shirt and knows there are no live bullets to dodge, which is the approach taken with Jefferson?
If you were Cam, what would you do?
A) The 2014 base offense/strategy, with some TAMU game variation, and more to be added in the off-season?
or
B) Try to develop him into a Matt Flynn style QB to allow the LSU offense to be more versatile?
Your preference?
This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 7:48 pm
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 7:41 pm to Football_Freak
Nope, not my decision or yours, or the Tards.. That's what the coaches get paid for..
Posted on 12/8/14 at 7:50 pm to Football_Freak
quote:
Will Miles and Cam "niche" to Jennings' ability in the next 2 years? Or is he "developable" into a QB who can see the field?
I imagine there is some thought that "of course he can be developed with more intentional practice by Cam".
But, is this true? Look at Jefferson. He never developed despite several years.
So, the question is, if you are Cam, do you develop a variation of the 2014 offense and niche to a run-almost-all-the-time offensive approach by the QB, or do you try to develop him in the off-season while he is wearing a green shirt and knows there are no live bullets to dodge, which is the approach taken with Jefferson?
If you were Cam, what would you do?
A) The 2014 base offense/strategy, with some TAMU game variation, and more to be added in the off-season?
or
B) Try to develop him into a Matt Flynn style QB to allow the LSU offense to be more versatile?
Your preference?
This is a stupid question.
Of course you are going to develop him...and all other QBs on the roster.
At the end of the day, if Jennings is the best you have...and you don't have faith that he has developed to the point of running the offense the way you want, then you fall back to some variation of the 2014 offense.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 7:51 pm to Football_Freak
Jennings is bad. I mean like shouldn't even have a scholarship bad. The odds Rettig turns out worse than Jennings seem virtually nil.
But, we are stuck with him as our second best qb if we are lucky. This is going to be a rough patch for LSU.
But, we are stuck with him as our second best qb if we are lucky. This is going to be a rough patch for LSU.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 7:57 pm to ShortyRob
They have no plans for Jennings to be the quarterback of the future. They just are hoping Harris finally takes his responsibility seriously and learns the playbook. That is the only reason he hasn't played. He thought he could ad lib and win. He got lucky a few times in the State game, but that will never cut it in an SEC schedule.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 8:08 pm to moneyg
quote:
Of course you are going to develop him...and all other QBs on the roster.
Technically, your point is valid. But you know what I mean by the nature of the question. Develop into a pass-competent QB, or develop as a run-mostly QB? There is a big difference in the two. In the pass-competent option, we would see Jennings attempts and completion and yards all rise a lot, and the goal would be to get him as close to a Matt Flynn as possible. In the run version, we relent to him running options, draws and read options,etc...and not ask him to throw to the mid-range of the field nearly as much.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 8:16 pm to Football_Freak
quote:He's really just an above average at best runner for QB.
Technically, your point is valid. But you know what I mean by the nature of the question. Develop into a pass-competent QB, or develop as a run-mostly QB
quote:He runs the standard option HORRIBLY for the same reason he can't pass. The dude seems to read defenses like a blind man.
In the run version, we relent to him running options, draws and read options,etc
Posted on 12/8/14 at 8:23 pm to Football_Freak
I would do neither 1 of the options. I would say change his position but he can't run. I just have to ride with the coaches on this 1
Posted on 12/8/14 at 8:51 pm to Football_Freak
quote:
Will Miles and Cam "niche" to Jennings' ability in the next 2 years? Or is he "developable" into a QB who can see the field?
What ability?
Do some people think Jennings is a legit rushing threat at QB because of what he did vs TAMU? TAMU DL is horrific. They are just that bad. He's not a statue like Mett, but he's far from a legit rushing threat. His season rushing stats were 100 attempts got 284yards... A 2.8ypc.
He can pick up the 1st down every now and then when scrambling on pass plays. But he's not nearly a good enough rushing threat to completely change our offense and have him being used primarily as a runner.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 8:57 pm to Football_Freak
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Try to develop him into a Matt Flynn style QB to allow the LSU offense to be more versatile?
Will never make it to that level unless his football IQ quadruples and gets a turbo charger.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:14 pm to emanresu
LSU should have offered Tanner Lee a scholarship last year. He would be starting this year at LSU.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:57 pm to Football_Freak
If Jennings played like JJ he would be much better.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:42 pm to Football_Freak
quote:
Will Miles and Cam "niche" to Jennings' ability in the next 2 years? Or is he "developable" into a QB who can see the field?
He will backup Harris for the next two years.
quote:
But, is this true? Look at Jefferson. He never developed despite several years.
Kinda hard to develop when you don't have a QB coach. At least Jennings and Harris and McMillan and whoever else we get, will.
quote:
So, the question is, if you are Cam, do you develop a variation of the 2014 offense and niche to a run-almost-all-the-time offensive approach by the QB, or do you try to develop him in the off-season while he is wearing a green shirt and knows there are no live bullets to dodge, which is the approach taken with Jefferson?
You go more 3 wide and go more shotgun. Since Harris is mobile, you go with some pistol. Regularly use read option, speed option, QB draw, rollouts, etc, to accentuate his attributes. Pass the ball 25-30 times a game, and increase the tempo at some points. Since he has the strong arm, and our WRs don't see the field much unless they can block, use a lot of WR screens like extended handoffs.
They ran all of this in practice videos, but very seldom went to it at all this year during a game. Harris will have two full offseasons, plus some game experience. Get the guy ready, and run an offense you are capable of. Break the chains Cam/Miles.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:49 pm to ShortyRob
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He runs the standard option HORRIBLY for the same reason he can't pass. The dude seems to read defenses like a blind man.
Even though I hate your crude manner of thinking on LSU football, this is kinda right. What is worse is that he will not ever give on the read option. He will not. I have watched him run the option several times and I don't remember one single occurrence where he gave it to the RB.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:53 pm to MrLSU
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LSU should have offered Tanner Lee a scholarship last year. He would be starting this year at LSU.
Don't be surprised if Lee's successor at Jesuit ends up on the LSU roster as a late addition.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 5:43 am to Datbayoubengal
Here is a question. Is Cam the QB coach right now? I mean in addition to being OC? If so, wouldn't it maybe be better to have somebody who is the exclusive QB coach, to work with and under the direction of Cam? So that Cam is freer to do the OCing without the drag of doing QB 101 ("Gentlemen, this is a football. And this is a forward pass")?
This post was edited on 12/9/14 at 5:44 am
Posted on 12/9/14 at 6:32 am to Datbayoubengal
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. I have watched him run the option several times and I don't remember one single occurrence where he gave it to the RB.
You have a bad memory
Posted on 12/9/14 at 6:55 am to Football_Freak
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QB who can see the field?
QB who can see the bench. I like jennings but he is the worst starting QB of the last 20+ years for LSU.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:18 am to Jwho77
LaForge isn't even listed on any recruiting sites...he will not be part of this class 
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:49 am to Football_Freak
C) Get Harris ready and show Jennings the bench.
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