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Debunking Alabama's 12 national titles...

Posted on 12/16/11 at 7:47 pm
Posted by gptigers
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2010
218 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 7:47 pm
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The early ones were awarded by individuals years after the games were played. These weren’t consensus polls but NCs awarded by people that had their own formula for determining champions. Some NCs were given before bowl games that Bama lost

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Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
10321 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 7:51 pm to
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Alabama's 12 national titles...




When you understand this, then you begin to understand why they think they won on Nov 5th


Delusion born from years back and continues to this day.




This post was edited on 12/16/11 at 7:54 pm
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
36203 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 7:53 pm to
Breaking News: Alabama fans don't give a shite and have heard it all before.
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 7:54 pm to
In the immortal words of peej, GO GET DRUNK AND HURT YOURSELF
Posted by MarkDShark
Lacombe, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
109 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 7:57 pm to
Actually, they claim 13. Has anyone else picked up that this is the number on the helmet they use for logos, memorabilia, and even the ESPN set?

Check the tape - they had #12 up to and including the BCSCG against Texas. After that they changed to 13.

I think it's a subtle reminder of their history, which is impressive by anyone's standards - but it's also a reminder of the sense of entitlement their fans have.
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:04 pm to
A lot of it isn't even not caring. It's simple ignorance or a belief that other fanbases are trying to tear them down. My brother in law is a bama fan and he's just an ignorant SOB. You try to tell him about the BS titles and he just goes off about people being jealous and the Bear and such.

I'm glad I got my wife out of there when I did before he tried to frick her. Luckily she's a good bit older than the bastard.

Are you picking up on the vibe that I don't like my brother in law?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118681 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:05 pm to
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1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!




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1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games. Yet Bammer has no shame in claiming it of course.


This post was edited on 12/16/11 at 8:08 pm
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:09 pm to
Take away 1941 & 1973, and give them 1966 & 1977 (which is fair), and they still have 13. I've got no problem with the total # of Bama's claimed NCs, even if I think the particular years they choose to claim are remarkably odd in at least one case.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:09 pm to
Does this have to be posted every day from now until eternity?



Also, they claim 13 now.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118681 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:11 pm to
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1966 & 1977 (which is fair),


Why is 66 and 77 fair?
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:17 pm to
1966 should need no explanation.

1977 is more subjective, but then again, for those who don't like the idea of Bama claiming a '77 title over Notre Dame, at least they have a major poll ranking them #1 from 1973.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:23 pm to
FWIW, here are a couple of funny scores from 1977...

Sept. 17, Ole Miss (5-6) 20, Notre Dame (11-1) 13 (in Jackson) LINK

Sept. 10, Alabama (11-1) 34, Ole Miss (5-6) 13 (in Birmingham) LINK

By the way, Alabama's loss was 24-31 to a (9-3) Nebraska team in Lincoln. It also occurred on Sept. 17. It was a judgment call for the polls, but I see how Bama could legitimately claim that year similar to the way Ole Miss claims 1960 & 1962, and programs like Georgia & Tennessee claim NCs that are far worse.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72872 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:26 pm to
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My brother in law is a bama fan and he's just an ignorant SOB.


Water is wet. The sky is blue.......
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118681 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:29 pm to
I just looked it up...I see what you're saying.
Posted by Dobermann
Member since Sep 2008
2032 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:39 pm to
any claimed title pre 1936 is not legit IMO.
AP UPI BCS (and FWAA for Ole Miss and Hog fans)

Bama has 8 legit titles
Posted by TigerNavyDoc
Camp Lejeune, NC
Member since Oct 2009
959 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:43 pm to
No offense but you didn't search hard enough!!!! There's only been like a half dozen threads on this....here's my question...WHY SHOULD WE GIVE A RATS arse HOW MANY THEY CLAIM??? I could care less! All I care about is LSU taking home this crystal ball!!
Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
Member since Oct 2006
13136 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:46 pm to
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No offense but you didn't search hard enough!!!! There's only been like a half dozen threads on this....here's my question...WHY SHOULD WE GIVE A RATS arse HOW MANY THEY CLAIM??? I could care less! All I care about is LSU taking home this crystal ball!!
Somebody give that Corpsman a sedative.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:51 pm to
I think pre-1936 title claims are legit--they are just "mythical national championships." The term MNC does not make sense for any title claim after 1935. They are disputed, but not mythical.
Posted by TigerNavyDoc
Camp Lejeune, NC
Member since Oct 2009
959 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:55 pm to
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Somebody give that Corpsman a sedative.


Lol...these days I'm a surgeon, but yeah I get your point. I apologize for my angst, but seriously....seems like we've covered this, and why doesn't lsu count all of their titles, and innumerable other BS topics this week...I'm just ready for some real conversation
Posted by L-S-U-L-S-U
Member since Dec 2004
344 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 9:10 pm to
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A lot of it isn't even not caring.


Agreed, and I have come to the conclusion that there is a mission Bama fans share. It is an unspoken code of conduct which must be obeyed lest one is not considered a true Bama fan. It is this: It is not just permissible to act like arrogant a**holes and disrespect all other fans and their schools and make nonsensical, delusional boasts, IT IS A DUTY TO INFURIATE OTHERS. The less sense a Bama fan makes and the more infuriating a Bama fan becomes, the more that fan is looked up to by his brethren as upholding this BAMA CODE OF CONDUCT.

Next time you are frustrated with trying to talk rationally with a Bama fan, or angered by their supremely arrogant attitude just remember they are duty bound to uphold the Bama code of conduct. Even if they don't really believe what they are telling you.

Also, trying to reason with a Bama fan is like trying to teach a pig to sing. It will frustrate the heck out of you, and it irritates the pig.
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