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Could be hard finding LSU tiger mascot when Mike VI dies
Posted on 7/5/16 at 12:10 am
Posted on 7/5/16 at 12:10 am
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A variety of experts representing zoos, exotic animal sanctuaries and animal welfare organizations say LSU could run into challenges sourcing its next live tiger without inadvertently supporting a controversial industry - the for-profit breeding and trading of wild animals in North America. Critics of that brand of breeding say it contributes to the world of dispirited roadside zoos and overcrowded private menageries that often don’t offer proper care for exotic wildlife.
“No reputable zoo and no reputable sanctuary is going to give a tiger to LSU,” said Debra Leahy, an expert in captive wildlife protection with the Humane Society of the United States. “The only source could be a shady pseudo-sanctuary or a roadside zoo, but by perpetuating the live mascot, they are participating in exotic animal trade.”
down by the federal government for failing to provide proper care.
Zoo policies on animal donations have evolved over several decades and now largely bar tiger exchanges that aren’t grounded in a strictly guided species survival plan. And true animal sanctuaries, ones that are accredited, wouldn’t give a tiger to LSU because it’s antithetical to their mission, animal welfare groups say.
David Baker, LSU’s veterinarian for Mike, said he would not comment on where a future tiger could come from.
“LSU will always do the right thing,” Baker said. “But I’m not going to talk about the next tiger.”
Despite his name, Mike VI is actually LSU’s seventh live tiger. Mike II was two separate tigers, but the first one died too soon for the school’s comfort, so university officials surreptitiously replaced him with a new big cat while insisting it was the same one. Baker, who wrote a book on the origins of Mike, confirmed the 1950s LSU folklore.
Both the current mascot and his predecessor Mike V came to LSU from places that called themselves sanctuaries. But both of those businesses have since been shut down for a long list of chronic violations related to the health of the animals and the safety of the public.
A variety of experts representing zoos, exotic animal sanctuaries and animal welfare organizations say LSU could run into challenges sourcing its next live tiger without inadvertently supporting a controversial industry - the for-profit breeding and trading of wild animals in North America. Critics of that brand of breeding say it contributes to the world of dispirited roadside zoos and overcrowded private menageries that often don’t offer proper care for exotic wildlife.
“No reputable zoo and no reputable sanctuary is going to give a tiger to LSU,” said Debra Leahy, an expert in captive wildlife protection with the Humane Society of the United States. “The only source could be a shady pseudo-sanctuary or a roadside zoo, but by perpetuating the live mascot, they are participating in exotic animal trade.”
down by the federal government for failing to provide proper care.
Zoo policies on animal donations have evolved over several decades and now largely bar tiger exchanges that aren’t grounded in a strictly guided species survival plan. And true animal sanctuaries, ones that are accredited, wouldn’t give a tiger to LSU because it’s antithetical to their mission, animal welfare groups say.
David Baker, LSU’s veterinarian for Mike, said he would not comment on where a future tiger could come from.
“LSU will always do the right thing,” Baker said. “But I’m not going to talk about the next tiger.”
Despite his name, Mike VI is actually LSU’s seventh live tiger. Mike II was two separate tigers, but the first one died too soon for the school’s comfort, so university officials surreptitiously replaced him with a new big cat while insisting it was the same one. Baker, who wrote a book on the origins of Mike, confirmed the 1950s LSU folklore.
Both the current mascot and his predecessor Mike V came to LSU from places that called themselves sanctuaries. But both of those businesses have since been shut down for a long list of chronic violations related to the health of the animals and the safety of the public.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 12:12 am to blackjackjackson
Hasn't this been touched on a few times already? Have a downvote.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 12:27 am to King of New Orleans
When the time comes.....LSU will secure another Tiger.
You forget the Tradition and the many millions of DONATED dollars just recently spent on Mikes new home.
Any politician or LSU administrator that tries to block a new tiger would be crushed !!!!
You forget the Tradition and the many millions of DONATED dollars just recently spent on Mikes new home.
Any politician or LSU administrator that tries to block a new tiger would be crushed !!!!
Posted on 7/5/16 at 12:35 am to blackjackjackson
I'd like to see a Mike VII, because LSU gives our tiger mascots optimal care, as the article stated, which I believe perpetuates the species.
However, conditions for obtaining a live tiger have changed since 2007, when Dr. Baker obtained Mike VI. So yes, it is likely that the tradition of live tigers on campus ends with Mike VI.
If so, LSU moves forward regardless. Times change and traditions too.
However, conditions for obtaining a live tiger have changed since 2007, when Dr. Baker obtained Mike VI. So yes, it is likely that the tradition of live tigers on campus ends with Mike VI.
If so, LSU moves forward regardless. Times change and traditions too.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 12:50 am to blackjackjackson
While I think your intentions are good with posting this, now is not the time.
Enjoy Mike while he is here and don't take his time being here for granted.
I disagree with every word of this. She makes it sound like anyone can go out and just get a live tiger somewhere.
It would be one of the worst decisions I would have ever seen made if LSU didn't carry on the live tiger mascot, should they opt to do so.
Mike gets healthcare that is second to none. If anyone honestly knows he doesn't, I invite them to show me because I don't see it.
As he shouldn't.
Enjoy Mike while he is here and don't take his time being here for granted.
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“No reputable zoo and no reputable sanctuary is going to give a tiger to LSU,” said Debra Leahy, an expert in captive wildlife protection with the Humane Society of the United States. “The only source could be a shady pseudo-sanctuary or a roadside zoo, but by perpetuating the live mascot, they are participating in exotic animal trade.”
I disagree with every word of this. She makes it sound like anyone can go out and just get a live tiger somewhere.
It would be one of the worst decisions I would have ever seen made if LSU didn't carry on the live tiger mascot, should they opt to do so.
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down by the federal government for failing to provide proper care.
Mike gets healthcare that is second to none. If anyone honestly knows he doesn't, I invite them to show me because I don't see it.
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David Baker, LSU’s veterinarian for Mike, said he would not comment on where a future tiger could come from.
As he shouldn't.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 3:25 am to blackjackjackson
So if LSU gets a new tiger they are contributing to the illegal trade of big cats worldwide? Well I'm glade we cleared that up. What a joke.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 4:27 am to blackjackjackson
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largely bar tiger exchanges that aren’t grounded in a strictly guided species survival plan.
Why doesn't LSU secure 2 tigers, with the goal of mating them? The resulting tiger could then be cared for until a mate can be found, starting the process over again. Think of the tradition that would be.
This post was edited on 7/5/16 at 4:28 am
Posted on 7/5/16 at 7:01 am to Shiftyplus1
Fact of the matter is, once LSU gets the Tiger no matter the conditions he came from, the Tiger lives like a King at LSU. He is only in his cage on campus during the season, obviously, and spends the rest of the time on a large reserve.
If anything LSU is helping to keep which ever Tiger they get from having his head mounted, becoming a rug, or even worse living the rest of their lives in a small cage for people to see.
If you take away our Tiger then the Bulldogs, A&M's dog and many other live mascots must be cut lose.
If anything LSU is helping to keep which ever Tiger they get from having his head mounted, becoming a rug, or even worse living the rest of their lives in a small cage for people to see.
If you take away our Tiger then the Bulldogs, A&M's dog and many other live mascots must be cut lose.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 7:40 am to blackjackjackson
Someone photoshop Les Miles and Joe Alleva's face on this poster and email it to Ms. Leahy.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 7:45 am to djkevlar
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He is only in his cage on campus during the season, obviously, and spends the rest of the time on a large reserve.
Seriously? Is this new?
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If you take away our Tiger then the Bulldogs, A&M's dog and many other live mascots must be cut lose.
I agree. A dog and a tiger are exactly the same.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 8:03 am to Tigertown in ATL
Well, I thought this was an extension of the thread we had a week or so ago on this subject...
Posted on 7/5/16 at 8:18 am to djkevlar
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He is only in his cage on campus during the season, obviously, and spends the rest of the time on a large reserve.
Huh?
Posted on 7/5/16 at 8:19 am to blackjackjackson
Can we let this die? How many posts do we need about this? We'll get another tiger.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 8:24 am to blackjackjackson
If a dumpy truck stop can have a live tiger, then a top notch vet school should have no trouble having one.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 8:27 am to blackjackjackson
Thailand has tons of tigers that are drugged so that tourists can go lay with them and pet them. I'm sure LSU could buy one of those. That way it's another rescue tiger and would give us the upper hand on PETA.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 8:28 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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If a dumpy truck stop can have a live tiger, then a top notch vet school should have no trouble having one.
I think it would be cool if LSU could get Tony out of that shite hole although he's probably pretty old now.
This post was edited on 7/5/16 at 8:30 am
Posted on 7/5/16 at 8:34 am to blackjackjackson
Why do these people hate LSU?
Posted on 7/5/16 at 8:39 am to djkevlar
Give the truck stop tiger a shot. He's earned it.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 8:46 am to monsterballads
There is a big cat sanitary in Jacksonville that has a ton of Tigers that they can't give away for free.
LSU can find a Tiger.
LSU can find a Tiger.
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