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re: Copy of Motion for Dismissal of Charges

Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:54 am to
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
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Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:54 am to
why should jj be on the field when we are blowing out teams? LSU isn't a charity school, we need mett on the field getting live reps. JJ is the past, lee is the current with mett.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:54 am to
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not sure how that's a problem to anyone?




My only problem with that has more to do with timeing and class then anything else. I understand not liking JJ as LSU's QB. I do. As much as I felt he gave LSU the best chance of success (as clearly did the coaching staff by keeping him as the starter) I have always found him to be INCREDIBLY frustrating to watch!!

But what we had when this story break was akin to fans cheering when a player gets hurt so that their favorite can come in and take his place. It was ugly, and uncalled for and without a doubt still colors the opinion of some regarding JJ's involvement in this situation.

I understand this isn't the case for all, but to pretend that some were not as giddy as a school girl when they heard Jefferson had been implicated in this because it meant they'd get their wish fulfilled is wrong. Those people, in my opinion, deserved to be continually called out...just as you would hopefully shout down some asshat cheering a player injury with the same end goal in mind.
Posted by Stewie Griffin
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
16148 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:56 am to
Racial slurs, first I've seen in official court docs.
Posted by Stewie Griffin
Baton Rouge
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16148 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:57 am to
Edited because i was wrong.
This post was edited on 9/17/11 at 12:02 pm
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
28643 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:58 am to
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Now as far as JJ is concerned it sucks for him but he is a distraction to the team. Its best he goes else where so he doesn't disrupt a possible nc season or future nc seasons


I realize this is a sports meassgae board, but for heaven's sake, there are more important things in life than winning a fricking trophy.

Namely justice.
Posted by Fububutsy
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jan 2007
3949 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:59 am to
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Racial slurs, first I've seen in official court docs.

First time Unglesby has filed anything to my recollection. The only things anyone has actually seen is the police report, and we all know where that information came from.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:59 am to
jj should still be allowed to go to class get his degree then he can go to another school and play his final season there. all parties are happy and brpd has egg on its face.

Id also encourage jj to sue brpd
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:59 am to
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I'm not saying JJ should be the starter...but saying that you don't want JJ to be on the field ever again just comes off as hatred for the kid. So JJ can't get on the field when we are blowing out teams?


Why would we want that either? We want our QB for next year to get more experience on the field.

Not sure how that's hating on JJ rather than properly preparing for being a fan of Mettenberger next year?
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38123 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:59 am to
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why should jj be on the field when we are blowing out teams? LSU isn't a charity school, we need mett on the field getting live reps. JJ is the past, lee is the current with mett.


Ok...but what Lee goes down? You want JJ or Mett? I'm sure you'll say Mett, which to me is absurd.

I get that JJ isn't the best QB, but it just pisses me off when I see so much hate for a 21 year old kid.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:00 pm to
There isn't a video with JJ in it?

Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:00 pm to
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Why would we want that either? We want our QB for next year to get more experience on the field.

Not sure how that's hating on JJ rather than properly preparing for being a fan of Mettenberger next year?




fricking exactly. LSU isn't a charity for JJ. LSU and les have done enough for him.
This post was edited on 9/17/11 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:02 pm to
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I realize this is a sports meassgae board, but for heaven's sake, there are more important things in life than winning a fricking trophy.

Namely justice.



And you realize these two things can be separate and still happen right? JJ can simultaneously receive justice by being cleared, and come sit on the bench at LSU because we don't want to change from Lee who is doing a fine job.

And if you do think we should bench lee when JJ comes back, where's the justice for lee? he's doing exactly what he's being asked to do, very well I might add, and he gets punished because of it?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:02 pm to
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You want JJ or Mett?


Mett

quote:

I'm sure you'll say Mett, which to me is absurd.


Why is it absurd? Mett seems to be a much better passer than JJ right now.
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
28643 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:02 pm to
I think justice would include JJ being allowed back onto the team and being utilized in any way the coaches see fit.

To be kicked off of a team because you were trying to help break up a fight is not any form of justice I recognize.

Of course this is all dependant on if this story JJ's lawyer is spinning is true.
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:02 pm to
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I get that JJ isn't the best QB, but it just pisses me off when I see so much hate for a 21 year old kid.



I do not hate JJ.

However, I do not think he is a good passer.

I get it that there is a new OC and a new QB coach.
Maybe JJ will be better this year.

I still want JL to start. JJ can share snaps with Mett if there is a runaway game, and JJ can come in on the 4 and do his thing.

I do not want JJ on the field if it is a long field. Just inside the 5.
JL is the better passer of the two.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:02 pm to
i dont personally hate jj. I could careless about him personally. I dont think his play is as good as mett. His experience doesn't out weight the pure talent of mett.

I think mett would be just fine, maybe jj could be 3rd string
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:03 pm to
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I get that JJ isn't the best QB, but it just pisses me off when I see so much hate for a 21 year old kid.



It's not hate.. if this had never happened I would still not want JJ out there, he has ZERO pocket presence, which just doesn't work in the SEC.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23064 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:03 pm to
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Why is it absurd? Mett seems to be a much better passer than JJ right now.
against NW state. I think he will be and might be great but I wouldn't mind having JJ on the team just in case.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:04 pm to
why should jj get the chance to share snaps? its a waste of time to take live game reps away from mett for a qb that never belonged in the sec in the first place.

also with his family popping off like they have been the kid is a distraction. I want him to get justice and i want the brpd to have egg on their face but I do not want to see this boil over to a distraction for this team.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38123 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:05 pm to
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against NW state. I think he will be and might be great but I wouldn't mind having JJ on the team just in case.
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